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Athletic brewing company has a a stout...that if they billed as an ESB would be amazingly convincing.
I swear to you, I am (or I guess used to be) a BJCP certified beer judge. (former) Cicerone ii
Athletic is the best out there for NA, that I've seen. And that stout... I was intrigued to see how you could make beery. And you can't. But... an ESBs flavor profile is, for all intents and purposes, a watered down (Still spritzy) dry stout.
I'll bet there are better for hopheads. Hell, I prefer lagunitas's NIPA offering more than athletics pale ale. So... yeah.
I read this twice and have no idea what you said.
ESB means "extra special bitter," which is a beer style
One that BJCP judges need to know. They also need to know a variety of stouts. BJCP stands for beer judge certification program.
And cicerone is like sommelier.
Sommelier is like wine expert but certified.
Idk about wine, but cicerone has three levels.
Level 1 is trivial and about glassware and cleanliness and beer style general knowledge.
Level 2 is a bit more intense (identifying specific problems with a slightly imperfect beer)
Level 3, to me, is wizardry. It's like mouth-brain-beer turning completeness. Basically.
Thanks for the rundown.