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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I found out my best friend was a rapist I would drop him before the ink on his arrest warrant dried

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nice friend you are.

You understand that false allegations happen all the time? This wasn't, obviously, because he got convicted. But if you drop your friends on an arrest warrant, I wouldn't want to be your friend.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not what they said. They didn't say they discovered their hypothetical friend was a rapist because of the arrest warrant.

It could be as simple as another friend telling them she was raped.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that person said that IF they found out their friend was a rapist because of an arrest.

An arrest is upon suspicion, and in rape cases, many times an allegation. That doesn't mean the person is guilty, that is not how our justice system works. False rape allegations unfortunately hace happened all too often and mostly end up in the victims life being utterly destroyed. The victim here not being the lying rape claimer, but the person who reiceived the false allegation.

It's also a really shitty situation for people around. Imagine being a mother and your son gets a rape allegation.

The problem is that rape is very hard to prove. If it happenend a few hours ago, no condom, okay then you have some evidence. But was it rape or consensual sex? If it happened years ago it becomes even harder to prove and a lot of times it's a he said-she said game and unless there is more actual concrete evidence, a judge isn't going to send a person to jail on a single allegation.

In this case ther were multiple independent testimonies, that helps

But when your friend is accused of rape thrn I guess it up to you, who do you believe? O hoor my friends would know me and trust and believe me.

Then again, maybe that is what Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher did. Trust and believe their friend, and now they "Support" a rapist

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I never said "because of an arrest"

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean my comment explicitly mentions becoming aware that my best friend was a rapist, not was accused of it

I suppose I could have said "if one of my friends was credibly accused of rape and it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed it, I would no longer be their friend," but that doesn't quite have the same kick, the same pizazzy oomph

My point was, it's beyond unacceptable for these two to defend a rapist in any way. It's not defensible just because they were friends. They're horrible people, end of.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

2-10%, that's about right. Do you want I ben part of that statistic, or so you prefer the "innocent until proven guilty" which is the basis of our entire justice system

Western justice systems are not principally designed to send that guilty to jail, their designed to keep the innocent out.