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cross-posted from: https://literature.cafe/post/569180 (I thought it was a really cool discussion topic!)

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I have a couple and I just honestly dont even know where to begin

So, do you have any? I've personally had some that at first seemed exciting but on more reflection, I didn't quite figure out yet how to make the premise really shine

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[–] JacobCoffinWrites 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a ton on the back burner for terminal lack of plot - I usually start with the concept/scifi setting weirdness because that's the part I find interesting, and then build out from there. But sometimes I can't work out a plot that does a good job with the setting, or can't choose one from my options. So the setting sits around until I get the Second Thing that makes it click, reinforces the themes I want to explore, etc. I'll take a look at my list and see if there's any that'll be interesting to talk about

[–] ellie 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are you a planner? how does working out a plot usually go for you, do you actually draft out all the major beats on paper or do you just collect enough themes and vague villain ideas to be convinced you can turn it into something later as you go? (the latter tends to be more my approach)

[–] JacobCoffinWrites 2 points 1 year ago

I've got what I'm told is a kind of weird system halfway between pantsing and outlining. I'll have the idea and get excited about it, start writing bits and pieces as I think of them, usually sentence- to paragraph-length segments, sometimes it's dialogue or setting stuff. I'll usually do this for a few days. Characters usually emerge here. Then I start organizing the pieces into what feels like the right chronological order, and build a sort of outline around it. I'll identify my scenes, sort the pieces into those, then sort them within the scenes. Then I start stitching them together and looking for the big structural stuff, where to thread in themes, which scenes reinforce what, what order is information being presented in (and consolidating or removing stuff if it's redundant). Eventually I get a workable draft and start the real editing.

I try to build plots around the core concept I want to explore with the setting, but that can be a bit "here's an idea the end" depending on the setting stuff. Those tend to go on the back burner.