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A crew of low-lifes working with an android in a dirty old spaceship for a faceless corporation that treats them as expendable.

Obviously the movie is really scifi horror, but it does hit a lot of cyberpunk themes. So do you consider Alien to be cyberpunk? If you don't, what would need to change to make it cyberpunk?

I usually include a trailer for the movies I reference but come on, it's Alien. You already know about this movie.
It's streaming on Hulu if you haven't watched it recently.

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[โ€“] identity_disc@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree. That's also why I dislike any cyberpunk story that has a revolution/rebellion in it. Any attempt to actually change/fix the system goes against the cyberpunk themes of how futile that is. Cyberpunk stories are about trying to survive with the hand you've been dealt, not enacting societal change.

[โ€“] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know that I mind a doomed revolution, as long as it avoids or subverts themes like heroism.

I could also see a revolution inconveniencing the protagonist.

But yes, being hopeful for things to change at the societal level is probably too much.

It's also worth noting that execution trumps most other factors. A Scanner Darkly reads as cyberpunk to me, despite missing a lot of the aesthetics of the genre. Infinite Jest also reads as cyberpunk, even though most of the sci-fi elements are hiding most of the time. That last one might be a hot take, I haven't been able to find anyone else talking about it as cyberpunk.