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SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the "Loli" announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I'm taking it as a backtrack, but it's still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven't seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of "whoops bad English" like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

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[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can block whole communities as user. Personally, I'm not interested in Loli, but their users voted to allow it.

[–] nude@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that isnt an issue.

The issue is for those looking for a NSFW instance that dont want to associate with child porn

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to join an instance to access their content, though. And if something pops up in your timeline if you select "All", you can still block the whole community without losing access to others hosted on that server.

[–] nude@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I am aware of this.

The point of the thread though is to point out that the instance likely isn't one that most people looking for a reddit NSFW alternative is one that they want to associate with, and to ask if there are any other alternatives yet

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't associate with an instance by accessing content from it. You do by signing up there and accessing the fediverse as a whole on that account.

[–] nude@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...and if the content there is loli, why would I want to go there?

And yes, using an instance is associating with it.

I don't care if people want to jerk off to drawn pictures of kids.
I'm pointing out that most people don't, so its not a suitable instance for the majority of people, and asking if there are any alternatives yet.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

You're absolutely correct. By using said instance you're helping to build their community (to whatever degree) and by extension supporting the problematic part of the instance.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The moment you have your instance defederate from another one, you decide for all your users, instead of letting them decide for themselves. Why would you want to do that? We have just seen what this does, when beehaw defederated from world and sh.itjust.works. No thanks to that. I, as an adult, can think for myself.

[–] nude@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you point out where I said to defederate?

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's obvious you're trying to troll me, so I'll disengage. Have a good evening.

[–] nude@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ah the old cant prove what you said so youre out trick.

Not once in this thread or anywhere else have I suggested defederation. I have repeatedly said this is to warn other normies about their tolerance of underage content and ask for any other recommended instances.

[–] Xenxs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you block a whole community?

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In your profile, looks like this:

[–] geoffervescent@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ahh, see this is the moment I realize we're all in a separate instances and all assuming our UIs look identical.

[–] BasicWhiteGirl@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They voted? How? How many people are even in that community so far? Seems like the kind of thing to revisit as it grows.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know, but they wrote so in the post the OP quoted.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah - but not a single response to the post - agrees.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly can't tell you anything you couldn't read up in the quoted original post of this thread. I read about it a few minutes ago, so you're as well-informed about it as me.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I meant - I didn't see a single comment on the announcement post - that agreed with the mod. They are all saying it's a stupid decision, many are threatening to report any clearly underage content - whether it's drawn or not.
The mod might have made the decision, but the users don't agree with it at all.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care about all that, or this issue here in general. I'm only replying here, because I personally, as a fediverse user, want to be able to decide myself what I do and don't want to see. If I have the means to curate the content visible to me, which I do, there's no need to have someone think and act for me. See where I'm coming from?

[–] nude@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't answer because I was banned for saying allowing loli was a bad move, lol

[–] Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah so it isn't so much that you don't want to associate with it, it's more that you got banned so can't.

Did you say that you thought it was a 'bad move' or did you go all guns blazing and start shouting about child porn?

[–] nude@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No, I was banned after this post was made.

I dont want to associate with that instance because its making announcements that its decided to allow nude depictions of underage children.

I said its a dumb move to allow porn that features depictions of children. Being banned doesnt bother me, I only found out when I went to look to see if I could delete my account

[–] Aeonx@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It does not matter if a community has 2 people or 150 people, whoever is a member of the community at the time their voice matters. And they can revisit that as the community continues to grow.

[–] gh0stcassette@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The more recent clarification post says they're prohibiting drawn CP (https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826)