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After having success with a sleep routine (that starts 1 hour earlier from when I want to fall asleep) and seeing someone mention morning routines and reset routines ("A reset routine is something you do when you're feeling super unfocused") I wanted to know yours, so that I can better craft and tailor mine.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I find that caffeine is wildly counterproductive, after the first week of daily consumption. Like, absolute total executive lockup.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only get that way if I have any after lunch. Coffee dehydrates you so it's important to be careful with it

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Coffee dehydrates you

I've heard this before but not sure I believe it. Coffee is mostly water. I think the reasoning is that it will trigger your body to urinate sooner than normal after consuming it. But this won't dehydrate you if you aren't urinating more than what you're consuming.

Is there some reputable source for that?

Edit: Found my own source. Seems like I was correct unless someone can proffer more substantial evidence.

https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/diet-nutrition/does-coffee-dehydrate-you

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a weird argument to make. Many things are mostly water, like humans for instance. That said, you are more than welcome to experiment and do your own research if you find this implausible.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you aren't drinking humans or food. You still need to drink water outside of eating. No one would warn you that you could become dehydrated from eating a steak.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen mate, I'm not a scientist. If you want to argue whether something does 'x' 'y' or 'z' thing then you really should be going elsewhere. This is a community for ADHD. I gave tips on how I manage my ADHD and some of the drawbacks of my particular method were brought up. I addressed those concerns to the best of my ability. If you would like to learn the scientific exact truth of something then you should be seeking an expert opinion. One that I cannot in fact offer. This is not the time or the place to be debating the qualities of watery-ness

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Yet you were the one to re-engage saying it was "a weird argument to make". If you don't know either say so or don't comment. Turns out coffee doesn't dehydrate you. I linked an article in my original comment. It's weird to try calling someone out for an argument you're wrong about, but here we are.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sea water is mostly water, do you doubt that it dehydrates you?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Salt water extracts water from you because your liver can't process water that salty. So yes you would end up urinating more than you drink. If the same were true for coffee, you'd likely be told to stop drinking it or there'd be heavy recommendations to increase your normal water intake to counter the loss. Technically you could drink salt water as long as you supplement with much more regular water (ignoring the horrifically increased salt intake).

Salt water vs caffeine have very different mechanisms.

[–] krellor@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most people drink too much coffee, which leads to tiredness, crashing, and dependency. Once I started thinking in terms of servings of caffeine instead of cups of coffee, I found a good balance that let's me enjoy coffee without needing it every morning or afternoon crashes. At home I make a French press using 2tbsp of coffee beans. When I get a coffee while out, I opt for an Americano with two shots. Both of which should be about 120mg of caffeine (give or take).

Most people drink 12-16 ounces of coffee as their morning "cup" which is more like 150-200 mg of caffeine. Often more, and often followed up with a cup later in the day or a caffeinated soda or tea.

Ymmv, but I've enjoyed being able to have coffee in my routine once I found a way to manage the amount of caffeine.

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly I have never felt any effect drinking coffee, so I haven't drank much all my life. I recently tried it again too after reading so many people with ADHD swear by it. Once again, felt nothing during or after, and I was pretty attentive to its possible effects that whole day.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I cannot manage one tea a day if I consume it every day.

I have far more emotional resilience when I am not consuming caffeine. I have more self-control and I am less impulsive; those should be obvious consequences. I also need less sleep, and I am more resilient in the face of a night or two of lost sleep. I feel worse, but I function far better.