this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
58 points (79.0% liked)

MeanwhileOnGrad

1337 readers
15 users here now

"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"

Welcome to MoG!


Meanwhile On Grad


Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


What is a Tankie?


Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

(caution of biased source)


Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would destroy their countries. Have you heard of brain drain?

Its just not a viable solution. Lets fix their countries instead of abandoning them.

Plus its not like they won't bring their issues with them.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you heard of brain drain?

Already happening, m80. Those who are struggling to get into Western countries are generally not the ones with advanced degrees. Most Western countries are pretty open towards offering residency to those with specialized skills and education.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's my point. Let's stop draining their brains, and let's start fixing their countries.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said it "Would destroy their countries", not "Has destroyed their countries"

Really rather sounds like you would just prefer to reduce immigration.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well yeah, but I'm trying to appeal to leftist ideals.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm an American, I don't go in for that kind of anti-immigration talk.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I wish that this was still a valued part of our culture. Seems like more and more people are against what built this country, and want to restrict immigration.

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freedom of movement is an important leftist ideal. If I invite someone into my home, sell them property, or offer them a job, the state should have no say in that.

[–] odium@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's more of a liberal ideal than a leftist ideal imo.

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's universal among anarchists, to the point of being a litmus test. I had assumed it would be popular among other leftist factions as well, but I don't have any numbers or anything. Pretty sure it's more popular among left-liberals than moderate liberals as well, so that would point to it being more of a leftist ideal.