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Authorities in Ohio say they will release body camera footage of a fatal police shooting of a pregnant Black woman.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that you had reached your conclusion by the end of the headline, and didn’t need to actually read the article.

I've been following this story since before the pigs announced they were going to release footage.

I think that in the absence of proof, you broadly assume the police are guilty until proven otherwise.

Yes. In every last case. Pigs have been behaving so poorly for so long that there is no reason to do anything but mistrust them until the instant they provide incontrovertible proof. Their word is less than worthless. Anything they say without actual evidence to back it up is a fucking lie as far as I'm concerned, and anyone who defends them without available proof does so out of naivete or bad faith because they love it when pigs murder unarmed black people for them.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Guilty until proven innocent" is the legal standard of a dictatorship, lynch mob, organized crime syndicate, or kindergartner. There is nothing of value to take away from your position.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Guilty until proven innocent” is the legal standard of a dictatorship, lynch mob, organized crime syndicate, or kindergartner.

First of all, we're talking about my personal standard for believing someone. I do not trust people who voluntarily join an institution with a long unrepentant history of racist oppression. Their word is garbage and I require actual evidence.

They chose to become cops. I don't trust them for the same reason I don't trust white supremacists. It's like trusting a babysitter wearing a NAMBLA shirt.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Understood.

Still not seeing anything of value to take away from your position, but I do understand it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still not seeing anything of value

Well, look. I'm not going to become a cop just so you can value my opinion on things.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, you absolutely should not be a cop.

You should go read a few history books, and maybe take a few civics classes, but you should absolutely not be a cop.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should go read a few history books

Why do you think I don't trust cops?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you have never had any formal training on the laws governing use of force, and your worldview is shaped by the opinions of people who have never had any formal training on the laws governing use of force. Unfortunately, with a few rare exceptions (Chris Dorner, Philando Castile spring to mind) the deceased also had no formal training on the laws governing use of force.

Dorner knew them, and committed suicide by cop. Castile knew them, followed them, and was murdered.

It is a travesty that our government only provides this training to police. It should be taught in high-school civics/social studies/government classes, so the general public is aware of when it can use force, and when force may be used on it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because you have never had any formal training on the laws governing use of force

Cops' "formal training" includes courses on "kill-ology". They get rewarded with paid vacation and the adoration of people like you. I've run into people like you on reddit. As long as I keep responding, you're planning to fire off one of these pro-murderpig comments every 24 hours or so to see how long you can keep me going.

As with reddit, I can choose to not participate. I'm making that choice. Inflict yourself on someone else. I'm free to leave.