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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 155 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fascism. They keep dancing around it, but what they want is fascism.

This isn’t politics. They want to remake US politics into a fascist state, and they’re not even that shy about it.

Thankfully only about 30% of US adults are falling for this grift. Unfortunately about the same percentage of Germans fell for it in the late 1920s. It seems really low, but it’s enough if the rest of us are complacent.

So let’s not be complacent.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't afford to be complacent, I'm not white. I'd rather die with a gun in hand than in a camp. Some things are worse than death.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

As someone queer. Yep, you’ve summed up how I feel as well.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

As a white person, I’ll die next to you if necessary. I hope it won’t be necessary – I’ll do everything I can to stop it getting to that point, but I see where this is headed. (e: we’ve seen this before.)

We cannot let this happen again. We cannot let the bigots twist society like that so that people die for stupid arbitrary reasons like skin colour or religion, orientation, ancestry or disability.

We should be past all that, and we can’t allow people who aren’t to gain power again. I’ll do all I can to stop it, and I hope enough others will, too.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buy guns.

If they want to fight, don't make it easy for them

[–] norbert@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The time is now.

Buy a gun or two (a short one and a long one) and learn how to use them; learn some first aid, field medics really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Meet others in your area who are like you and share your beliefs, start building networks who can help each other because the police will not. This is real, the right is marching towards a blend of Christofascism/Corporatocracy that I'm not sure the world has seen and just winning a presidential race in 2024 isn't going to cut it.

We need long term solutions, consistent, focused work so actual progress can be made again. Organization is so incredibly important and is why the rightwing has been so successful over the last half-century. We don't have shady PACs funded by billionaires behind us, we'll have to organize and DIY.

https://www.dsausa.org/
https://theliberalgunclub.com/
https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club
https://www.guardianrebellion.com/

[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got guns but if I'm gonna have to deal with a civil war I'm leaving to the freaking wilderness and suicide last resort. I'm not going to kill people. Once you cross that line you're never the same. The problem with humanity is that we never manage to make positive change without constant bloodshed. Fuck that. We obviously are a doomed species.

[–] tryingtimes@lemmus.org 3 points 1 year ago

How do you explain people who kill in self-defense? They're not usually damaged or changed by what they had to do to live.

I don't think you're giving yourself or your fellow man enough credit.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I am right there with ya.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there are lot of groups that would be targeted if these clowns get their way. Hopefully this fight won't get physical.

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a white disabled combat veteran who had hoped to be done fighting, but this is not the America I fought for. I will gladly take up arms again to defend our democracy from those who wish to destroy it. You will not be alone on that field if the day ever comes.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Fortunately, there are more decent people in this country then those fascists.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's actually the vision Stephen A. Douglas had for America when he ran against Lincoln.. only Lincoln could head it off then..