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TLDR: CPU frequency on newer notebooks always at 1.6+GHz; fans are always on and loud; Is it a CPU problem?

Edit: Thanks for the replies so far! After looking for alternatives we've been eyeing the Razer Blade 14, Zephyrus G14 and Zephyrus M16. If anyone has some experience with one of those devices, please let us know. Thank you!

Hello everyone!

Me and an acquaintance have recently bought new notebooks, one with an i9 13900H and one with an i7 12700H. We were both pretty unhappy with how loud the fans were even when basically doing nothing (had one tab in Firefox and the taskmanager open - using Windows 11). We found out, that the idle frequency of the CPUs on both devices was constantly quite high (min. 1.6GHz, most of the time even more, even though hwinfo tests showed that they should go down to ~0.8GHz). Our old notebooks (i7 8750, i7 7700) and a newer Thinkpad (i5 12500) don't have this issue - the frequency drops to 0.8GHz and the fans turn off and stay silent. It's possible to browse, code and do everything else that does not create much load on the CPU without the fans spinning up at all.

On all devices we used various tweaks (turning turbo boost off etc.), but it shows no effect on newer models.

So now we're wondering if this is normal for newer notebooks (after 2018) or if there was something off with those notebooks in particular. Could AMD CPUs be better in that aspect?

We've both already returned those notebooks and can't do further testing (tho even with the manufacturer support we found no solution).

If anyone has some more experience with that topic and maybe some insight on what we should look out for on new notebooks, any info is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have an Ryzen+Radeon Zephyrus G14 from 2022. It's been great, battery life and performance wise. I run Linux but I'm sure Windows is no worse in this regard.

The only thing I can say is that I misjudged the 14" form factor and regret not getting a 16" model, and the mechanism for lifting the laptop of the table with the lid works great on a table but makes the laptop largely unusable on your lap in the couch.

[–] mourningcrows@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the input! The Zephyrus models do look pretty good. I think I'd personally feel the same regarding the size of the 14", but sadly it seems the bigger models all come with the Intel CPUs

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a 2021 G15, but it looks like the 2022 G15 is still ryzen, I've had really good experiences with it. Ive never fwlt like I needed more screen (15.6" is pretty close to 16"), and the battery is great. Just don't get it if you need a webcam on the move! FYI, the Zephyrus naming convention is that G notebooks have AMD processors, and the M series have Intel.

[–] mourningcrows@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I see, the 2022 G15 has AMD, but all the 15"+ 2023 G models still have Intel. Generally the 2022 looks good as well, but the newer versions seem to be a bit better with the display and a few other things. I'll still look into it and consider the older model too, thank you for the info!