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[–] trslim@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but I don't want to rule it out completely. I there is, it's probably nothing like anyone has every thought about. There's a lot about the universe we don't know. I think it's a bit foolish to claim for certain things when we know so little about the universe. One day, it might be possible to measure the soul with scientific equipment, and future people may look back on us and think, "Wow, they actually believed they were only organic, not even realizing they have a quantum soul," the same way we look back at people who thought the earth was the center of the universe.

The world is a complicated place, and what we say now may look foolish or ahead of its time 100 years from now.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, well said. This train of thought is why I've never been able to identify as an atheist.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think that humanity might possibly find evidence of a god in the future, that still makes you an atheist today.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol, what? That's absolutely not the case. What do you think the difference between atheism and agnosticism is?? Atheism is the belief that there is no God, period. Nothing waits for us after death, just oblivion. Agnosticism is the belief that there's something out there, we're just not sure what.

[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think the difference between atheism and agnosticism is??

Generally none. I assume the "agnostic" part whenever someone says they are an atheist.

Now gnostic atheism is a different beast entirely.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Then you'd be talking about someone who thinks we'll never know if a God exists, which is an agnostic atheist. But atheism and agnosticism by themselves aren't the same.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s absolutely not the case.

It absolutely IS the case. If you don't believe in a god, you're an atheist. End of story. If you're open to the idea of there being a god, but don't believe in any of the ones presented thus far, you're still an atheist.

Agnosticism is the belief that there’s something out there

That's incorrect. Agnosticism is the idea that "the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable". The idea there there's something out there is not agnosticism, it's just really weak theism.