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[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The function that demonstrably draws chill well-meaning people to mastodon and pushes queer people and minorities away from alternatives like pleroma is demonstrably the ability for administrators to perform full-instance blocks.

This part threw me off. I agree with basically everything you said, but this sentence made it sound like you were saying the opposite. That is, to me it reads like "federating is bad because it pushes queer people and minorities away from Mastodon" even though that's the opposite of what you mean.

Maybe just me.

Anyway, I think this is 100% right. It's a good way of circumventing the free speech trolls, whose arguments were 100% in bad faith from day one. So you can pick and choose where you go!

I think one bad effect is that there are some confused people in the middle, who don't moderate, who will let their communities get poisoned, and I guess I just wish the effort didn't have to be on each individual mod, because there will be a lot of gaps that let trolls get through.

[–] TheConquestOfBed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

That is, to me it reads like “federating is bad because it pushes queer people and minorities away from Mastodon” even though that’s the opposite of what you mean.

Federating with people who are ideologically opposed to your existence creates a horrific social atmosphere. It makes sense if held in the context of conservative violence against minorities. Federating in itself is an amazing technology that mimics actual real life community structures and I think it is capable of creating far healthier communities than mainstream walled gardens focused on engagement stats.

I think one bad effect is that there are some confused people in the middle, who don’t moderate, who will let their communities get poisoned, and I guess I just wish the effort didn’t have to be on each individual mod, because there will be a lot of gaps that let trolls get through.

I think it's good that it's necessary. Reddit runs on teams of sociopathic mods. Masto mods are much more chill and actually understand their own communities because everyone in it matters to them. If you can't put in the work you shouldn't be responsible for the well being of others and deserve to be defederated.