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Murdered by Words
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Responses that completely destroy the original argument in a way that leaves little to no room for reply - a targeted, well-placed response to another person, organization, or group of people.
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- Personal appearance ("You're fat", "You're ugly")
- Posts with little-to-no context
- Posts based on a grammar/spelling error
- Dick jokes, "Yo mama", "No, you" type responses and other low effort insults
- "Your values are bad" without any logcal or factual ways of showing that they are wrong ("I believe in capitalism" - "Well, then you must be evil" or "Fuck you you ignorant asshole")
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I wasn’t arguing against your point, I just asked if you were sure because I didn’t have any experience of it. If you shut down genuine discussions and questions with “you’re proving my point” you prevent people from growing and learning. But whatever, have a nice day.
~~Dude, we've had discussions before and I'm all for you going somewhere else and suddenly complaining about how you had a bad time with me not providing you a genuine discussion, but when your whole comment reiterates my point, what are you expecting to happen? You just described that you were told XYZ happens and that's exactly what I said would happen.
Its becoming pretty fucking clear from my interactions with you that you don't understand honest discussions.~~
Edit: I realized a few minutes after posting it was another mod with a similar name. Came back to correct it. I got ahead of myself.
The rest of it still stands though. The behavior you were told would occur is the exact behavior I'm describing.
I genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about, but I do know you’re becoming aggressive and not only is that completely unwarranted, it’s against the rules of this community. I think it’s best we don’t interact with each other at all, outside of moderating.
Yeah, I was actually coming back to apologize. It was a different mod with the same first half of your name. After posting, I was "wait... was it that mod?" I won't name them fully but their name also started with "someone".
Edit: realized I said I came back to apologize but never finished. So apologies. That was my mistake.
Edit: but the original concept still stands. You said you were told to expect the behavior I described. I don't understand how that would prove anything against my point.
Apology accepted.
I will admit, it'd be funny if you blocked me. Cause then I could demonstrate how blocking works and that I can still see your comments and reply, etc.
In regards to moderating, I nice set of tools that they could implement is a moderator view of the community that would override any of your block-preferences. So your normal surfing could be edit from blocking, but when you go to mod, you could effectively override them temporarily.
Ironic
I confused them with another mod named "someone" who had made a prejudiced comment, got banned, and then complained that no one would have an honest discussion instead of banning first. It was relatively recent so it was still in my head, but not recent enough that I remembered the full name correctly.
That being said, being asked to to replicate a behavior that I already predicted literally would prove my point. Like, they were actually asking me to do something that they were told would produce the exact behavior I described. I honestly don't know how else to phrase "that would prove my point." It wasn't being flippant. It was being literal.
The issue isn't about proving your point, it's that OP didn't ask for a debate. You seriously need to consider that not everybody is trying to debate you.
OP was genuinely confused on how blocking worked and wanted you to block them so they could see how it worked on the "victim" end. They weren't arguing with you about anything!
The issue shouldn't be about someone getting to tell someone else what to do. It should be about the topic at hand.
But they didn't tell you what to do! They literally asked you.
Well sorry, but tough shit! This is an open forum where anybody can talk.