Memes

Wow you're still just as funny as you were last time I talked to you

Taking territory is only meaningful if you can hold it

Correct. And they absolutely can hold it. On the first try it took Russia months to take it, and I don't see how they can do that again, given all the troops that were involved are now in Kherson. But I guess we'll just have to see.

orderly and strategic withdrawal.

Lol no. Literally just take a look at https://twitter.com/UAWeapons and you'll see tons of abandoned and destroyed Russian vehicles. They were completely overwhelmed in Kharkiv and did not plan this. Of course it's not all precisely geolocatable but it has to come from somewhere.

This is a war of attrition

Correct. And majority of the Russian army is in Kherson with their back towards a river with no bridges. Supplies are limited and they are unable to move a meaningful amount of vehicles in or out of Kherson. This is completely unsustainable in the long term.

Even western media admits that the fighting is far more expensive on the Ukrainian side

It sure is expensive. But Kherson has tied so many russian resources that Ukraine now managed to steamroll through Kharkiv. It doesn't matter whether Kharkiv was just an orderly retreat (it wasn't) or a "sign of goodwill" (it wasn't) or a rout (it was), Ukraine just wants their territory back. And there is "steady" progress on Kherson too, at least more steady than LDPR progress on Pisky and Bakhmut

zero evidence that HIMARS have made any strategic impact

HIMARS is the reason Russian logistics are completely fucked in Kherson. It's also the reason for the rise in "smoking accidents" in ammo dumps on Russian occupied territory.

Russia has [..] MLRS systems comparable to HIMARS

So in Russias hands they do have strategic impact? Also please tell me the name. I'm looking for something with about 80km range, less than 10m deviation at max range, and which is actually used by Russia. So far I have only seen them use Kalibrs for comparable targets, and those are much more expensive than HIMARS rockets and easier to intercept. It's also questionable how many of those are still left.

I'm done with this thread, we both know this discussion won't reach a conclusion. I'm interested to see where our points will stand in another 6 months