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[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago (8 children)

People often say they're just waiting for him to flip on Trump. Giuliani is broke, Trump disdains him, etc...

The prosecutors aren't interested in what he has to say. There are better witnesses, more reliable witnesses who have corroborated all the facts already.

The prosecutors do not need this shell of a man to flip.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it'll still be fun to watch all the worms turn on each other.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

If he flips it'll be hilarious watching him mouth vomit all the shit trump has told him.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. Trump is the main culprit and threat, so he's priority.

But taking down a corrupt former mayor? That's a feather in anyone's cap too.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, Rudy isn't exactly a credible witness. He's told so many lies, so many different versions of events, and he has proven he's willing to say anything to save his own skin. The defense would tear him apart on the stand.

The only way he gets a deal is if he can provide hard evidence the prosecution doesn't already have.

[–] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% this. He'd be a laughable witness against drumpf and all drumpf's lawyers need to do is to cast reasonable bout in his testimony, There are a few obvious ones, like substance abuse, habitual lying, leaked tapes, financial embarrasment, etc. There's also always a chance he'd make the whole process a clown show by sprouting off random ramblings and conspiracy theories on the stand. Drumpf's attorneys could also easily push all the blame to Rudy by invoking the advice of counsel defence.

Glad to see "drumpf" is still out there in the wilds

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

At this rate they don’t need anyone to “flip”. At the end of the day these morons got busted doing illegal shit and there is more than enough evidence that they don’t need someone else’s testimony. Flip or not then are fucked.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He won't flip, or else GRU will release the CP tapes.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To quote Giuliani himself, He has insurance, and knows where the bodies are buried. There are likely ~~extemporaneous~~ contemporaneous notes of items of interest

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe Trump has dirt on Rudy? He could be holding something over his head that would ruin him even more

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] arensb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Plus I have to imagine that lawyers such as Jack Smith and those on his team have a deep loathing for corrupt attorneys like Giuliani and would love to see him brought to justice.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rudy is the "true believer." I dont think he'll ever turn on Trump.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think so. I think he's just an opportunistic weasel. But I could be wrong

[–] victron@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao no, no one of his bootlickers believe in him. Not even Gaetz. When push comes to shove is everyone for themselves. Although, the Four Season Landscaping fiasco (still get a good laugh at that one) make me question his sanity.

[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Knowing how hard even with a ton of evidence it will be to convict Trump He may not even have been offered a deal. He's not a president but still a very high level political operative. He might be the biggest fish to fry.