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[–] C4d@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I can say is that the greater the gap between what is intended and what others perceive, the more difficult things can become.

Politics (even family politics) is full of this stuff.

In some legal contexts intent really matters.

But intention can only ever be inferred (unless bluntly stated) you could argue that if people generally aren’t willing or able to examine things too closely, then perception becomes everything.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In some legal contexts intent really matters.

Someone else brought this up too which is why I originally was asking. I had to watch one of those anti-sexual harassment training videos at work. If I remember correctly, the dialog they used was "Remember, regardless of what you intended, the perception of what you said matters more" and they were talking about saying lewd things to coworkers.

So the person saying it doesn't find it to be sexual harassment to just say something lewd to someone, but someone else could hear it and perceive it as sexual harassment and the intent would just go out the window because it was perceived to be harassment.

[–] C4d@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The key word is “some”.

You’ll find bullying is treated in a similar way - the perception of the person who heard or experienced something is significant, the intent of the person who said or did something much less so.

On the other hand, one could be misleading and mistaken by giving out incorrect information, but one could be lying if they are knowingly giving out incorrect information… (intent)