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Does the US have zero employee protection laws?? (lemmy.nz)
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Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

I'm curious about how far this goes.

You can't get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.

But it seems that in the US, there's little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?

Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?

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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are making this too complicated. The "classic example" of a negative externality isn't carbon emissions, it's the "tragedy of the commons". People would overuse public land to graze their animals. Nobody took care of the public land or refrained from grazing to allow the grass to grow back, so it sucked.

A better example of a positive externality is a nice cafe that provides a nice environment for a town. The cafe doesn't just provide sandwiches and coffee. It improves the area around it and nearby businesses benefit.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the “tragedy of the commons”. People would overuse public land to graze their animals. Nobody took care of the public land or refrained from grazing to allow the grass to grow back, so it sucked.

this is a capitalist myth. the british peasantry maintained the commons until capitalist interests enclosed them.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it's a well studied phenomenon.

The commons dilemma is a specific class of social dilemma in which people's short-term selfish interests are at odds with long-term group interests and the common good.[80] In academia, a range of related terminology has also been used as shorthand for the theory or aspects of it, including resource dilemma, take-some dilemma, and common pool resource.[81]

Commons dilemma researchers have studied conditions under which groups and communities are likely to under- or over-harvest common resources in both the laboratory and field. Research programs have concentrated on a number of motivational, strategic, and structural factors that might be conducive to management of commons.[82]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago

this does not prove it's not capitalist propaganda. (it is).