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I don't understand why anyone idolizes this bastard. There are too many bootlickers out there, which is why nothing ever changes and assholes like him can continue to exploit people.
Tesla is also known for its shit build quality. So why not buy an EV from practically anyone else?
Especially now that actual car companies are coming up with their electric models.
Actual car companies are the same as tesla, even worst. Tesla is so popular because old car companies bribed politicians to avoid transition out of fuel, and cheated (diesel gate was the norm, not an exception).
Unfortunately tesla is still better than other companies. And this says all about how corrupted is automotive industry
I don't disagree with you that old-world car companies have corrupt practices, but this is not why Tesla is so popular. Tesla is popular because they make luxury cars that feel fun and because Elon used to be so ebullient and good at PR.
As for Tesla being better, how? The company is just as corrupt and their R&D into self driving cars is a bit behind competitors
Teslas are not luxury cars lol.
Tesla was the first company to show that ev were an economically viable solution, and demonstrated to the world that old companies were unprepared for the future, willingly jeopardizing any innovation, if a newcomer could so easily solve the problem. That's why tesla became a stock bubble and elon is so full of money.
And everything was true at the time, traditional car companies were unfit for the challenge. Old, corrupt, bureaucratized monsters actively blocking any type of innovation. If you read automotive ceos interviews at the time, they were betting on methane to be the only viable future. Methane, not joking... Like they didn't even consulted a junior chemist to know how stupid of idea it was... Traditional car companies are unfortunately much worse than elon. Simply their ceos are not on X... They are to old and technically inept to do so.
Elon is bad, but the rest is worst for everyone. We shouldn't cheer for those companies getting back the power they are luckily losing. Luckily for humanity future
The economical viability to put evs in the market.
Clearly ev was viable. Electric engines have always been better, batteries were simply not good enough 20 years ago. Old automotive companies have been lobbying to claim evs weren't economical viable until very recently. Tesla is the first company that showed otherwise. Nowadays everyone is selling evs
Older companies are not stifling innovation the way you think they're doing, in fact, I think there are fascinating research being done these days. As for the fact that their CEOs are not on Twitter, isn't that a good thing? Would you want the CEO of a company to tweet something idiotic at 4 in the morning, wreaking havoc on stock prices and driving the company into firefighting mode, detracting energy from other parts of work?
It is absolutely good they are not on Twitter, elon unfortunately is not the answer.
Research-wise, old companies have proved for decades that they actively bribed politicians and cheated to jeopardize innovation.
I don't know what research you are referring to, but traditional automotive companies haven't moved forward since decades. They refined old, inadequate technologies to a extreme level until the reality bit them and they are now they're chasing.
Automotive sector, between elon and the old, corrupted, incompetent monsters, looks bleak
Batteries, energy, computer vision, deep learning, and crash safety. I'm most excited about better and better virtual human body models reflecting actual human sizes (male, female, adult, children, obese, average sized...) being released for testing, instead of the old default-male crash dummy.
Having said all that, I only use my car on holidays. I bike to work and prefer to take long distance trains for work related trips. So, yeah, fuck cars and fuck ever expanding roads. Streets are for humans, not for cars and parking.
The GM EV-1 in the 1990s was an absolutely viable electric car that was lease-only, and practically every letter wanted to keep the car once the lease was up, but GM took them all back and crushed them.
The feasibility was there. The will to market it was not.
This is exactly what I am saying! Without tesla, market would be on the same position, because the lack of willingness came from the corruption of the existing automotive companies of the time.
You are confirming what I am saying. Old car companies are even worst than tesla... This is the bleak situation we are living
I don't get why people want EVs so bad. We need electric public transport and electric bicycles
EVs are meant to save the car industry, not the planet.
Surely they're better but you're right- we should be focusing on more transit rather than just EVs.
Because I travel in-between cities, not only intercity. Also, a travel time of 20 minutes with no changing of vehicles is nice too.
Cult of personality is an infectious disease.
And a really good song
The same issues persist to this day, but if you said something bad about Tesla 3 or 4 years ago, you'd get all these left-wing environmentalists screaming down your neck because they sooooooo wanted EVs to succeed that they completely fell for that clown Elon's bullshit. Lo and behold that he was totally just playing liberals like a fiddle and he actually is a right wing psychopath.