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Tesla knew Autopilot caused death, but didn't fix it::Software's alleged inability to handle cross traffic central to court battle after two road deaths

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[–] anlumo@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never sat in a Tesla, so I'm not really sure, but based on the things I've read online, autopilot and FSD are two different systems on Tesla cars you can engage separately. There shouldn't be any confusion about this.

[–] Miqo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I've never sat in a Tesla, so I'm not really sure

There shouldn't be any confusion about this.

U wot m8?

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

There's three tiers. Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and FSD Beta

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, if it's just the lane assistance autopilot that is causing this kind of crash. I'd agree it's likely user error. The reason I say if, is because I don't trust journalists to know or report on the difference.

I am still concerned the FSD beta is "out there" though. I do not trust normal users to understand what beta means, and of course no-one is going to read the agreement before clicking agree. They just want to see their car drive itself.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

If it were about the FSD implementation, things would be very different. I'm pretty sure that the FSD is designed to handle cross traffic, though.

I do not trust normal users to understand what beta means

Yeah, Google kinda destroyed that word in the public conciousness when they had their search with the beta flag for more than a decade while growing to be one of the biggest companies on Earth with it.

When I first heard about it, I was very surprised that the US even allows vehicles with beta self-driving software on public roads. That's like testing a new fire fighter truck by randomly setting buildings on fire in a city and then trying to stop that with the truck.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I don't trust a machine that has been trained for millions of hours and simulated every possible traffic scenario tens of millions of times and has millisecond reaction time while seeing the world in a full 360 degrees. A system that never drives drunk, distracted or fatigued. You know who's really good at driving though? Humans. Perfect track record, those humans.