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God it is validating to see you say that. I'm new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It's exhausting.
Also the fact that they all act like /r/the_donald trolls
Nothing makes me less inclined to hear out your opinion when you're acting like a middle schooler whose trying to look cool in front of his friends lol
They are not communists, they are russian apologists.
They're tankies.
Tankies used to care about communism. Now they're just anti-western. They will not question if Russia or China are actually communist because it doesn't matter. They don't care about worker protections or freedoms. They only care about "owning the west."
Yeah I find them rather funny... I'm antiamerican and leftist but many seem to think that it's a binary and we must choose.
Having actually lived and worked in China for the CPC, I find their idolizing of the modern Chinese nation-state a bit laughable
Fuck Putin, fuck Stalin. Peace to world, glory to science and production, mechanize ancillary work, reduce manual labour.
Here's a little bit of communism you didn't want.
Those communists are the ones who built the platform you're speaking on.
Not communists. (Also, most of them have never made a commit. They didn't do anything.)
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn't matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can't own it.
I don't care about their personal beliefs of any one of the contributers. As long as the software works, that's fine. I like rocketry, but the nazis contributed a lot to that. It doesn't matter though. It doesn't change the function of it.
You sound like communist
Yeah, I would mostly agree with that. More of an anarchist bent, but sure. I'm not a tanky. I have no issue with communism, but I do have an issue with authoritarianism, especially authoritarianism that uses the name communism as a cover while not protecting worker rights and freedoms.
And? I made none of the claims you're refuting. I just meant this place wouldn't exist without some of these "communists" and since they made it and were here for years before most of us, it's not surprising there's a lot of communist content.
You sound like you're implying that because they made significant technical contributions to useful software, then that automatically validates their political beliefs, and /u/KrayZeeOne@lemm.ee should just put up with it.
Unless you want to be in a bubble, I think we should at least have the option to be able to put up with people who have different opinions (regardless of whether they made the software). There are walled gardens like Beehaw for those who want a more filtered experience. The Fediverse is big enough for both of us.
Lemmy is social media. It's entertainment. Maybe there's a time and place to "put up with" genocide-deniers, but I don't fault anyone for not wanting to deal with that all the time.
Sure, and the software is pretty good. Nazi rockets were also good. It doesn't mean anything else is good or valid about them. I don't care if the creator is a tanky (definitely don't care if they're a communist) to enjoy the software. It is a useless point to say they created it as a way to justify anything else being good.
It's an appeal to false authority and therefore unrelated to the conversation.
Did I praise someone? I noted that some communists built this platform that's why you see them here.
I did what now?
And? They don't run anything but their own instances.
Its FOSS. they don't have any ownership over the platform as a whole. If they started trying to fuck with the lemmy source code for their own agenda, then we'd just fork it and carry on as before
Is someone claiming that communists are fucking with Lemmy code? Where did this come from?
No not at all. The core contributors of lemmy just happen to be communist