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[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Country people led our (US) labor movement in the 1890s-1930s in conjunction with immigrant industrial workers in the big cities and longshoremen and others on the coasts. While there has definitely been a turning away from the left for the working classes in many places, the mere existence of historical working class socialist movements show that it is not an inevitable outcome, and with the proper analysis and action, can be reversed.

[–] John_Coomsumer@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The country people of the 1890s are not the country people of today. Big city folk were a significantly smaller part of the population then, and the college educated population was miniscule. The ability to become educated is the largest relevant metric here. Now you can hit up khan academy and stanfords YouTube channel and get a world class education for free. Back then you had to be straight white wealthy connected. The excuses for ignorance are gone, for current country people.

But yes, these problems can and should be reversed, and done best communicating outside of the specific "lie-beral pedo demonrat vs racist Jesus warrior firearm creep" paradigm; placing things in terms of labor vs ownership class.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

How many of these country peoples have access to broadband internet, how many hours do they have to work to support their family? They don't and never had the time to get educated when they start working a job at 14 and work for the rest of their lives.