The point above stands. EVs do little for the environment. Compared to sensible options like transit and biking and walking they are marginally better, but hm hardly at all.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They reduce emissions in a neighborhood, in driveways and such, and they reduce sound pollution, which is great for local creatures.

They shift power generation to more efficient platforms, rather than messy, poorly maintained gas engines.

Battery production and recycling is a major issue.

For those who cannot walk or bike, an affordable ev is a great choice

[–] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re just reiterating my points. Yes they are better. And for people without a choice living in car dependent he’ll holes - an improvement.

But the fact that you live in a car dependent he’ll hole is another failure of our society - and prevents you from using much better options.

We should be addressing the root cause. Not the symptom.

In functional societies, EVs are a small improvement. The noise and carcinogen pollution, land use impact and simple danger to soft street users are key damages ALL cars make to spaces occupied by people.

Finally - I am tired of “we need cars for those with impairments / to reliever things / other bullshit.” We do not. It’s just the completely broken car-dependent American perspective.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, we agree more than you think, but your despising incremental progress gets you nowhere. "But it isn't progress! It's not going the way I want it to go!" Sorry but you're looking down the barrel of decades worth of small changes to get to any American future you're seeking.

America is a big place, with many differing environments, governments, and needs. They aren't all going to "get there" in unison, or in a hurry.

In the mean time, quit shaming people trying to benefit their local system, and trying to conduct their lives in the way they see best, while keeping their gone and feeding their family.

When I see a Prius driving around I know that could have been a misused ferd f-teen thousand truck, which lives it's life commuting and getting groceries. I'll take the Prius.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Seems to me like having to drive many miles to maintain a job that can pay enough to maintain your fairly far afield home (assuming the home costs less because it's not in the same geography as the office) is a failure of the system as a whole and the company for not making their office work better for their workers.

I mean, unless you have a storefront or regularly have to go to specific places as part of your job, like lawyers going to the court house, then why tf does the company pay for very expensive offices in the middle of a metro area? Put the offices where the workers can actually live near it.

I work in IT, I go to the office to stare at a PC for 8 hours. Something I can literally do anywhere, but instead of IDK, working from home or having distributed offices spaces so people don't have to drive as far, my companies only office is in the middle of a major Metro's downtown in a high rise office for a massive amount of money. So now I have to pay, out of my pocket and time, to drive through downtown traffic, to a parking spot that costs me far too much monthly, so I can simply be physically there to do a job that only requires a PC and an internet connection.

It's all fucking stupid.... And every company seems to do this. Nobody ever comes to our offices and there's literally no reason for them to be where they are, or for me to be there.