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I think what's also great with Penrose is that he doesn't care about money or politics, which are major factors guiding what other physicists will say.
He already proved himself and doesn't need to argue about pity things. He can even allow himself to make some jokes about
10^(10^100)
or talk seriously about it... I wouldn't know.Finally, if I add the immense chance of talking to him this wouldn't be my preferred topic.