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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remote work showed that offices can be pretty much anywhere.

[–] shannduin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Many companies are walking back their permissive remote work policies which adds a layer of uncertainty for immigrants when considering living outside of an urban centre.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many companies are walking back their permissive remote work policies

I interviewed today. I told the guy that the Commute policy WILL drive the costs up, as I'll want that separate add-on to cover the policy, like a CoLA clause. The math is simple, and will work out to a bit of a bump per day if that day is mandated onsite.

But they're competing against a job I have that is paying X and the "100% remote" is in the contract in plain language, among other factors. I feel for them, as it'll be harder to get actual talent like the astounding people I work with, when all they can offer is some cruel dotcom wage-slave term set. (according to my spreadsheet, it's gonna be double just to make par).

Rule1: Always charge 'em until ya like 'em.

[–] shannduin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I wish companies would get their heads out of their butts and realize that people were just as productive working remotely as they were in the office for most jobs. We live in a world of distributed teams! Even at my company, my team is in Seattle, Mountainview, Sydney, and Boston! It logically makes no sense anymore to mandate in-office work, yet they're doing it because they always have

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but it means that companies can start looking to expand into cheaper urban centers.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it means that companies can start looking to expand into cheaper

Yeah, everyone gets that it's a benefit to the employer to run with WFH staff, but it's often a struggle for old-school manager who validate their existence through home-room attendance. My current employer had to re-up a contract during CoViD, and the only change was a pay bump to handle inflation and "100% WFH" (in legalese).

And the employer sold the desks - sometimes to staff - and released the space it was renting. So easy. One guy is onsite to receive Fedex, and there's a few 'hotel' desks that see regular use.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not even just WFH staff: instead of having expensive office space and high COL, you can pay less and rent an office in Saskatoon.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a very good point. For the footprint you must have, it lets a company choose to relo to a place that can use the tax revenue and looks far better on paper.

... but then the '100% remote' clause needs to be etched into stone, lest the management decide to "just" pull everyone back in to an office far away from their current home or abandon their jobs!

But yeah, the cost of office space in the flat land is potentially so much lower, that I'm surprised smarter people than me at business - and there's a lot - haven't jumped on the opportunity to improve shareholder value or something by a relo to some place better.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The smarter people don't want to work in Saskatoon, unfortunately

[–] MyNameIsSkittles@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Most immigrants coming into the country won't be able to secure a fully remote job right off the bat. Most need Canadian work experience first before getting anything but an entry level customer service job