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[–] j2sun@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an immigrant myself, yes. It is very attractive just by the fact that Canada's government isn't 100% corrupt and it's honestly very family friendly. Sure, there are problems, but they pale in comparison to a lot of other countries'.

It took me 5 months to find a good job (that wasn't service) - so competition is tough and the initial steps are ridiculously expensive, but it's all good. Infrastructure and systems are suffering right now, but in the next 20 years, I'm confident it will catch up.

[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The corruption is getting worse every year though

[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Although global corruption is increasing, Canada is still one of the least corrupt countries in the world. According to the CPI, we are the 14th least corrupt country in the world

[–] dirkgentle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Coming from Uruguay, I didn't feel a big change on that regard when coming to Canada, which I guess makes sense because we are tied on the ranking.

I think it sometimes takes interacting with people from other places in the world to realize how lucky we are in some sense.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

it sometimes takes interacting with people from other places in the world

I read that a lot: going out and experiencing different cultures gives one a better perspective. I spent a number of years in America, for instance, and I definitely missed Canadian healthcare from 1999. I still do, but a bit less; but I still do.

[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This makes me lose hope in the future of our world. But I guess I'm glad to live in Canada.

[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every now and then the world goes into a dark place which is what (I believe) we are heading into now. But the world has come out stronger from most of those dark places and I believe it will simply repeat this cycle

[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That is a strong message, thank you for spreading the positivity!

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

corruption is getting worse every year

I know one political party loves to screech about this, but do you have numbers?

Is it worse than the same year where we signed FIPA into law and then, same year, a backdoor for China into our customs database? I think that was a rough year for us and our self-worth, but awesome for comedians.

[–] MyNameIsSkittles@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It's really easy to say something like that when you're blind to the actual corruption in the world. We have it incredibly good here in Canada - you must be quite privileged to lead a life where you think we are massively corrupt, since you have nothing to compare it to.

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I want it to stay that way, every new immigrant makes Canada better.

However we really, really need to start creating more housing for immigrants and those already here. Its not fair to the immigrants to make them live in shelters or squeeze into tiny, overpriced accommodations.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Indigenous person here from northern Ontario .... I think immigration is a good thing for this country ... the more diversity and mixing that happens, the better it is everyone in general. Canada was founded on the mixing of cultures, races, ideas and religions ... even though a small segment of society wanted to identify themselves as the dominant ones. In the face of one colonial culture that wanted to dominate everyone and everything ... diversity was always in the background driving the country's development (most often against the will of a minority few).

I can't change who I am nor my ideas nor my culture nor my race ... I live how I was taught and the same goes for everyone else and their backgrounds.

The change that happens is gradual and happens over generations. The ones to come after us will mix my culture with yours and anyone else and will create a new hybrid culture that may or may not be the same as mine or yours. They will always keep elements of our past but they will combine them with the best (or the worst) of who their descendants were.

The diversity I like to think about is not the diversity we have now or want to magically create today ... the diversity I like to imagine is the one we will leave behind once we are gone.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

let's hope so. diversity is the spice of life.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Canada is really attractive, but most immigrants think Canada is made up solely of Toronto and Vancouver.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most immigrants think Canada is made up solely of Toronto and Vancouver.

To be brutally honest, I suspect most Torontonians and Vancouverites kinda feel the same. Sometimes Ottawa.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

From Vancouver, can confirm

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[–] SubmarineDoor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It will, but a lot of these immigrants are going to struggle to get housing and good jobs and some of them may even leave to greener pastures.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes? Land is cheap, space is available, and it borders the US.

Who it’s attractive to will change over time however.

[–] markev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Land ain't cheap where most of the immigrants end up going. Canada still offers a better quality of life but that will dimminish over time if housing issue is not addressed.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that will [diminish] over time if housing issue is not addressed.

Housing and Benefits funding are intertwined. It's easy to kick the temporaries out, but no country will want to kick out the tax-paying short-timers who will eventually return home LONG before they retire and start really needing our support. Cost/Benefit-wise, our declining population needs TFWs who (outside aggra) pay high taxes and need fewer services, to stay afloat, like any caring nation needs.

The nordics have really figured this out, and despite a nine year waiting list for rentals in some urban centers, they still have TFWs and can still afford to maintain infrastructure.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What we need is further investment in tech hub towns and cities, like Halifax did. In places that don’t burn/flood seasonally and have a reliable power supply. If that got spread out, housing wouldn’t be as much of an issue.

[–] markev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I fully agree with you and it's encouraging to see things like "Alberta Is calling" campaign. But, I wish the federal goverment would be more involved in spreading the immigrants around our vast land. It feels like all they do is set targets and "job done"...

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the radio spots that tell me I can own a house for 400k in Alberta? As much as I want to believe that that's not complete bullshit, I think it is bullshit and pity everyone who goes through just to come back to wherever they were before.

[–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can totally own like a nice 3-bedroom house in a nice area in Winnipeg right now for 400K. My house cost that much and even had a finished basement and is one, a much bigger plot than most houses.

[–] MyNameIsSkittles@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then you have to live in Winnipeg. There's a reason everything is cheap there

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

From Winnipeg, can confirm

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Up to a few years ago, you could have the 400k 3-bedroom AND a postal code that looks like 'banana' as well. BONUS!

Not now, though. Everyone found out and barely beat the investor scum to snap it all up.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the federal goverment [...] all they do is set targets and β€œjob done”

But, that's kinda their job. We have premiers to do the regional work, and usually trust them to do right (sit DOWN, Mr Ford).

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The number of places that don't burn or flood is only going to get smaller as climate change ramps up

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[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just wait for the warm farmable longitudes to start turning into deserts.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://archive.ph/dYX4I - Trees -> Savannah, so it's a similar change already.

If only we protected our forests like we want Brazil to protect its own.

[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

πŸ˜” brutal.

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