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[–] Excrubulent 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not saying a VPN or a debrid are necessary, only that they demonstrate the bandwidth and storage capability at scale for low cost, on which peertube could run, which would presumably scale with interest in the platform. It's not complicated.

I won't explain any further unless you tell me, specifically, that you are curious to understand what I am saying.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now listen, Debrid isn't actually providing any meaningful bandwidth. It's a third party (fourth party?) service.

What they are doing is simple: For their paying users (no clue what it costs without making an account, $3 a month?) they offer fast direct downloads. But they aren't even storing the data themselves (besides caching)! They use premium accounts for other file hosters to get around the download throttling. So instead of you being limited to 1 MB/s or less for most downloads Debrid uses their account to download at full speed, then give you the file.

So they are pretty much abusing other hosters by allowing their own users to share a premium account for various file hosting platforms. Which will work so long until these hosters start aggressively blocking accounts that use too much bandwidth.

In addition to that you are paying Debrid money, $4 or something a month? If every YouTube user even paid $1 a month there would be zero need for ads. You are right, bandwidth is relatively cheap, but getting people to pay is difficult. Your suggestion would basically be that YouTube now forces everyone to pay $2 a month or they can't access the service (or only 480p videos or whatever), which would work! But is far less suitable than charging more for no ads and have only one out of hundred(?) users pay while the rest happily watches ads.

If every user threw in some coins per month we could have services with zero ads. But even a cheap subscription like $1 or $2 is often too much to convert users. The service has to be free, so that out of a million users maybe a few hundred actually pay.

[–] Excrubulent 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're wrong about debrid services, they store everything, I assume you don't use them.

But I'm afraid I won't "listen here". You can't even pretend to be interested in what I'm saying, apparently, so there's no point in me continuing to explain.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously I don't use them, I'm just reading about how they work. And they seem to give you access to other hosters instead of hosting all the files on their own servers, right?

You haven't explained shit so far, all you did was say again and again "Debrid", "VPN"!

Which are just services, but you said zero about the infrastructure behind running them (besides mentioning it must be cheap). You could clear this up in a single sentence.

[–] Excrubulent 1 points 1 year ago

And they seem to give you access to other hosters instead of hosting all the files on their own servers, right?

No.

You haven’t explained shit so far, all you did was say again and again “Debrid”, “VPN”!

Once again proving you haven't been listening.

So should I take this as evidence that you really aren't curious at all about anything I have to say?