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[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think burkinis are dumb, personally, but I don't give a damn what people wear. This is just typical ingroup-outgroup postering fueled by a proto fascist government, standard stuff really. Also, hygiene? Bro, it's the ocean, a layer of clothing extra ain't gonna make a difference.

[–] starlinguk@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Burkinis are great for anyone wanting to protect their skin without reapplying SPF 50 every 2 hours.

[–] livus@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Exactly, they are really practical and they allow more people to enjoy the beach.

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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

How many men are wearing them?

[–] livus@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the hole in the ozone is getting worse again so as someone who lives near it, I'm looking at burkinis/rash shirts for the coming summer.

I don't want skin cancer.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This.
Also, these men trying to dictate what women wear never seem to consider just how uncomfortable they make us in public spaces and that many (of all, if any religion) choose to cover up to avoid their gaze (as well as other reasons). They also never seem to have an issue with nuns.. 🤔🤔🤔

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Catholicism had its fair share of totalitarian rules. Europeans fought back for 200 years in order to free themselves from their freedom suppressing ideology. Nuns attire serves the same purpose of oppressing women and I holdbthemnin the same contempt.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok but what about Christian monks, does the habit they wear serve the purpose of oppressing men.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Of course it doesn't, because that would involve @henrivolney, a man throwing a tantrum over women choosing to wear a bathing suit, being capable of critical thinking.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

In a way they do. Their costume is a way to say that they put their life under the authority of a fictional character. The difference is that monks, Christians, Buddhists or Muslims, live apart from society in monasteries. Hidjabs and burkinis are a way to separate women on a daily basis among their secular peers, inside their social fabric.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They look like derpy wet suits. Although some are definitely worse looking than others.
Hygiene is indeed a weird argument when you swim in a giant fish toilet.

[–] livus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The hygiene part made me laugh, given the photo. That beach is full of children most likely peeing in the water and there's a container ship in the distance, discharging god knows what into the sea.

Someone whose swimsuit has a bit more material in it is not a threat.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read a survey once that had a large number of adults pee in the water too. It's not just children.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Now that you mention it, I do myself, but not if there are people nearby.

That beach looks like a hellscape to be honest, there are just way too many people there. I bet the water has things like sticking plasters floating in it.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I just stay out of the sun. As an ignorant Italian in my youth I already caused who knows how much damage being taken to the beach by my parents all the time. I will cover up and wear a very large brimmed hat but mostly just stay indoors. Fuck cancer.

[–] CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saying burkinis are dumb is a really dumb thing to say.

For some bucket hats are dumb, but some people wear them. Not your place to judge. Also, it allows people of certain believes to have an equal access to commodities like going to a beach and go for a swim in a public.

In this regards, I would say, they are pretty smart.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Burkinis are absolutely a human horror that contradict every advamcement of women emancipation. They are the symbol of a society of apartheid in which women have fewer rights than men. But yes, people should be allowed to wear whatever they want, including nothing if it is their choice.

[–] CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If somebody is forced (!) to dress in a specific way, that's wrong. But if somebody chooses (!) to wear them for religious reasons, who am I to judge that?

My point is, there is nothing inherently wrong with burkinis - the context in which some individuals are wearing them might be wrong.

I 100% agree with you, that nobody should be forced to wear something that they don't want to.

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[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Crocs are a human horror...

But that's just my opinion. Other people can wear whatever the fuck they want. I won't judge... (out loud).

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Hell, judge all you want, even. Just don't go harassing people for wearing them and you're well within your rights.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

40% of people who buy it aren't even Muslim,

But yes, people should be allowed to wear whatever they want, including nothing if it is their choice.

except those who choose to wear burkinis, apparently.

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[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

let them judge. as long as they don't force their opinion on others; that's good enough. Cultural difference, that's it.