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New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

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[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you take Tesla's word and believe it, but ask for proof for the contrary?

You're just a hypocrite.

[–] narp@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You made the first comment: "Teslas aren't safe", without providing proof.

And now you're calling someone a hypocrite because he asks for data of exactly what you claimed, while you're redefining your first argument as "the contrary".

So, do you have proof that Tesla's aren't safe in comparison to other cars, or is it just your opinion?

[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're literally having this discussion under a video where automatic braking should have kicked in, but didn't.

[–] narp@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you can't base a fact on one accident. Or even multiple. What if newspapers like to write especially about Tesla accidents to generate clicks?

Teslas seemingly have a lot of accidents, but without checking the statistics and comparing it to other manufacturers you wouldn't really know if the perceived truth is a fact or not.

[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, but the automobile industy is too opaque to do this kind of study. Maybe the insurance companies have this data, but they.are not sharing it.

In the absence of such data we have to make do with what we have. What we are seeing are a lot of examples where Tesla's are clearly doing irrational things and failing miserably. Youtube is not full of Mercedes cars failing miserably, eventhough there are a lot more Mercedes cars on the road.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The data is widely available and has been provided to you several times in this thread. You just refuse to accept it because it goes against your prior beliefs.

A person clearly can't be reasoned out of a belief they weren't reasoned into.

There is no independently available data on which car has the most crashes per km driven.

Stop spreading misinformation.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tesla model Y scored the highest possible score on IIHS crash test as well as 5 stars on Euro NCAP

Their other models have similar results. I believe Model X is the safest SUV ever made.

EDIT:

More than just resulting in a 5-star rating, the data from NHTSA's testing shows that Model X has the lowest probability of injury of any SUV it has ever tested," Tesla said in a statement. "In fact, of all the cars NHTSA has ever tested, Model X's overall probability of injury was second only to Model S.

Source

Also might want to check this

EDIT2: Imagine downvoting the guy providing hard evidence and upvoting the fanatic making baseless claims backed by nothing

[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not hard to game benchmarks.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe you're so blinded by the hatred towards Musk that you can't even think straight and no evidence in the world could convince you otherwise?

You really should've checked the last link.

[–] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The link worthless. It's just Tesla advertisement.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Considering what's behind that link it sure is ironic you didn't even open it lol