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Between 30 to 50 people swarmed the Nordstrom at the Westfield Topanga Mall in Woodland Hills, making off with thousands of dollars worth of luxury handbags and high-end clothing, an LAPD spokesman told NBC News.

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (27 children)

“I’m poor so I’m not responsible for stealing luxury goods and bear spraying minimum wage security guards.”

I grew up poor. I didn’t do this. Your comment is dripping with the implicit accusation that poor people are basically just animals. Incapable of controlling themselves when they see nice handbags.

[–] isaachernandez@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Poverty doesn’t affect everyone the same. To try to discount the fact that poverty increases crime just because you aren’t a criminal is ignoring the complexity of humanity.

To say that this particular crime was caused by poverty also ignores the complexity of humanity.

We can all speculate until we’re blue in the face, but I agree that lessening poverty will lessen crime of most types.

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Thing is, there's a difference between stealing a loaf of bread and looting a Nordstrom and assaulting the guards.

[–] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Stealing from wealthy corporations is an extremely valid and morally acceptable form of protest. Hell, it's a morally good thing to do even if it's not meant as a protest.

I'm not going to defend assaulting the guards, though, except in the case of self-defense. Store security guards have no business using force against shoplifters, and most company policies align with that fact.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah have you ever been in a Nordstrom? Fuck that place, snatch all the handbags you can and sell them on eBay I don't really care.

You shouldn't bear spray security and maybe they should be charged for it but at least he wasn't shot or something.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

i feel bad for the employees who had to deal with it and clean up after and the guards that got assaulted. i dont feel bad for the above store level managers and execs who have to deal with this shit.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So all those people who work for a living and contribute to society, who save up that money to buy those handbags are just schmucks? Give me a break.

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. People that work for a living do not shop at Nordstrom's

  2. The items were stolen from Nordstrom's, not individuals

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

What a tacitly disingenuous statement. What the fuck are you sniffing "people who work don't shop there."

Your edgy 14 your old comment is ridiculous. What a jibe on the rich you just did!

The items were stolen period. Fact. A crime. Never mind your rage against capitalism. Commit a crime and get put in jail.

Commit a bodily crime over property, get put in the ground.

[–] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know someone is a shit person when they equate income with value as a human being.

Even if that were a valid take, almost every working poor person contributes more to society than nearly any rich person does, and would therefore still have more human worth.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was also needless destruction. I can see breaking a glass case to grab some watches, but it appears that there was also destruction for the sake of destruction (at least in the video I watched).

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, things. Whatever will they do with the insurance payout.

[–] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who actually gives a fuck about corporate property being destroyed? These companies commit more theft from their workers than all other theft combined. They objectively deserve this.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care about the corp. I care about the workers who have to clean it up.

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