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Larian has delayed the release of Baldur’s Gate 3, currently on pace to possibly be 2023’s Game of the Year, until they can figure out how to make split-screen work on Series S.

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[–] spacedogroy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly, it's kind of on the developer. If they'd taken the Series S as the base line during development, they would have made life a lot easier for themselves. I think Microsoft are right to stick to their guns. It will seriously piss off their consumers if they can't land good quality versions of equivalent games on PS5.

I actually think it could be more beneficial for players across both console platforms to encourage developers to build games which scale reasonably, and at the low end target a 30 FPS minimum frame rate whilst the Series S/PS5 get 60 FPS+ or improved image quality, or both. Instead of it just being a race to the bottom on performance just so we can have a little bit of ray tracing.

Also, as far as I'm aware, Baldurs Gate 3 hasn't released on PS5 and is not due until September. I will be very interested to see how that goes, because I think the conclusion of this article is premature until we see that.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

that doesn't mean we get better games on the xss, but that we get worse games on xsx and ps5. I paid for that power, I want my games to use it. I don't care that it doesn't run as well on a lesser console I deliberately chose not to buy because of its lesser power

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they’d taken the Series S as the base line during development, they would have made life a lot easier for themselves.

The problem is that the baseline is actually the PS5. It outsells both versions of the Xbox by a factor of 2. So the Xbox Series S is an afterthought, and always will be.

[–] spacedogroy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would be to Microsoft's advantage to change that perspective, which would reinforce why they might maintain their hard line of feature equivalence. I agree though, it appears to be the status quo.

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Except that they can't. The only thing they can do is to give up on the Series S. Sure, that is a disaster as it means millions of Series S buyers are basically on a dead console. But they're headed in that direction anyways.

[–] rafoix@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The baseline system is almost always the most popular system. No developers should be hamstrung by MS’s bad business decisions.

I’m not sure that having BG3 run at 540p 30hz on the latest MS console will be good for Larian.

[–] spacedogroy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I find it hard to believe BG3 would run that poorly at that low quality but I guess time will tell. It's up to Larian how much they want to release on Xbox

Going back to the article, I think whether it hurts MS more to keep this promise over features or not depends a great deal on what the split is between Series S and Series X consoles. I would suggest it's worse to sacrifice the Series S audience as there's less sunk cost there compared to the Series X audience, who we might assume have more of an investment in the Xbox ecosystem from the previous generation, and therefore it's harder for them to make the switch to PS5.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

The issue here isn’t frame rate or graphics, it’s that with the memory issues on the series S, they can’t get split screen to run. It runs just fine on X, but won’t on S. Because Xbox demands parity, they can’t just disable the feature like they did for Steamdeck.

[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

If we take the series s as the baseline in development, we'll get games that don't take full advantage of the better hardware. They shouldn't have to make their game run on potato grade hardware. I think they hit a great balance, it runs great on most modern gaming pc's, and the series x and ps5 will have no issues running it either.