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UK Labour are too Tory for me. (med-mastodon.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by XraySonoCol@med-mastodon.com to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

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UK Labour are too Tory for me.
I've threatened that they've lost my vote. (edit)
On LGBTQIA, specifically trans rights.
On their plans for the NHS.
On their plans for health and wealth inequalities in the UK.
On their plans for the relationship the UK has with Europe.
They have to be less Tory to get my vote back.
It's not acceptable that to not vote Tory, we have to settle for what they offer. They assume their position is acceptable.
If they correct their position, I'll reconsider
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[–] frankPodmore 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your description of what you want is virtually value-free, because it's framed entirely negatively. It sounds like you want 'not the Tories'. The article makes the case that Labour are 'not the Tories', as does history and, frankly, common sense.

[–] XraySonoCol@med-mastodon.com -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@frankPodmore The article in it's just over 600 words does barely anything to answer my points.
The value is again, that I choose to tell Labour what it is I want from them. Recall that I've not shared the email with you, so you have no way of knowing.
It isn't a simple dichotomy. I choose to tell Labour what I want from them. There are many varieties of not Tory and labour can choose to be Tory lite, or not. How I vote and what I tell them can align or not as I see fit.

[–] frankPodmore 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, again, your points are 'Labour are too much like the Tories' and the article is about numerous ways in which Labour are, in fact, not like the Tories.

[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude's just trying to make another "both sides" argument. Always funny how people pretending that both sides are the same do so in a way that conflates the further-left party with the further-right party, and not the other way around. Almost like it's conservatives pretending to be to the left...

[–] frankPodmore 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're always only a hop and a skip from voting Lib Dem. And from there, it's just one jump to 'Might as well vote Tory...!'