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Actual conservative here.
Not all progress is good. Its best made in measured doses.
Life is good. Sure there are problems, but they can be solved without completely changing the system. Better laws and regulations, going after those abusing the system, that sort if thing.
Also the only alternative presented is communism. And historcally, whats been advertised as communism has lead to a 100 million deaths, the oppression of everyone else involved, and generally bad shit. (No, Im not arguing about what is true communism)
WWJD?
Jesus was a socialist.
Socialism is charity at gun point, otherwise known as theft. Jesus was about voluntairly giving, because he understands consent.
He also said people who don't choose to do so and hoard more wealth than they need are going to ~~hell~~ sure as shit not heaven.
It's a shame it's all fiction and no one's going anywhere except the ground or an oven.
But its still up to the person. They're allowed to make that choice.
Technically if they believe in a Judeo-Christian God, they believe that God knew what their choice would be before they were even created, otherwise God wouldn't be omniscient, which nullfies the idea of free will, as it was God's choice to make a being God knew would make decisions that would lead them to hell and made them anyway.
Im not really looking to get into high minded debate about free will and god
Then stop professing expertise on the Christian God's economic preferences.
You're allowed not to pay your taxes to fund socialist programs. There is a consequence of jail, but you have that choice. How is it different?
off-topic. nowhere in your reply have you spoken about christianity.
What do you mean by "the only alternative presented is communism"?
Can you give examples of that, I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
What other alternatives are given? Monarchy? I jest a bit, but capitalism works really well, just needs a little effort to keep assholes from going full 1890s coal town.
Not sure if you are being serious. There are levels of socialism and social safety networks that still allow democracy and even capitalism. It's regulated heavily, wealth is limited, and resources are shared to those who need it.
Bible Jesus fought systemic poverty & for the shunned in society, made it very clear how he felt about the rich & powerful.
It's mind-boggling to consider neoliberal christianity. It literally goes against everything your god/god's son fought for... I don't understand how christians aren't leading the fight against wealth inequality, systemic poverty, and improved social systems.
"How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of heaven! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven."
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'"
Jesus was a socialist.
I think a lot of it comes from a distrust of the government, and an understanding that charity is voluntary. In socialism, its not. Doesn't really count for much if its done at gun point.
I know its kinda late to say this, but disclaimer that I do not know every single person, and my perspective is limited.