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[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This comment is severely out of line and admittedly anecdotal.

"Medical doctors are also known to be severely lacking in skepticism and the scientific method (much like engineers)"

That is a broad and ignorant statement that is as outlandish as it is contrived.

[–] skullone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Found the MD. /s

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Hm yes outlandish and contrived, I concur.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol, ok. Then why do the editors at numerous medical journals and other science writers agree with me? Like this one, that concludes that medical doctors are far too quick to abandon scientific skepticism in favor of new treatments. Or this one, which argues that doctors ascribe too much importance to one-off studies. Or this one, which flat out states that doctors do not think like scientists.

Outlandish and contrived, my ass. Just because you like to believe doctors can think like scientists doesn't make it so. If you disagree, feel free to provide sources.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your ass, indeed. You said they severely lack an understanding of the scientific method and lack skepticism. Those are wild and ridiculous claims, and the commentaries you link do not even prove them.

Just because you think every doctor is incapable of using/understanding the scientific method does not make it so.

There are doctors who do medical research, as well as engineers, that is a fact. Not to mention the scientific method othen applies in daily practice, inherently.

There's a difference between saying that not all MD are physician scientists and need to better apply their fundamental principles, verses claiming that doctors don't understand the scientific method.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just because you think every doctor is incapable of using/understanding the scientific method does not make it so.

I didn't say every doctor. I said that doctors in general and medical education as a whole are lacking in understanding of and curriculum supporting skepticism and the scientific method.

Those are wild and ridiculous claims, and the commentaries you link do not even prove them.

Correct. They do not provide conclusive proof. But when educators and editors of scholarly journals both agree with the premise that medicine is not science and physicians do not apply proper scientific rigor in the course of their work, it's fairly suggestive, don't you think? Especially in the absence of any sources with claims to the contrary. After all, I've yet to see you provide a single source...

But while you look, you could consider these commentaries that look into the lack of fundamental science education in modern and historical medical education (Source 1, Source 2, and Source 3)