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Abbott ‘has the blood of a child on his hands,’ a congresswoman said. ‘No good person would do this,’ said Mexico President López Obrador.

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[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Too many things I want to reply to.

Sorry a kid died because their parents were 'breaking the law' How did a kid manage to make it to the border Nobody accused Abbott of being a good person Death traps. Roll a DC 15 constitution save.

Remember when there was a time that the president of the United States characterized the place we live as, "a shining beacon on a hill" and "bring us your tired, your weary, your broken masses" (sic) ...

The USA, despite your opinion, remains one of the most wealthy, prominent, and aspirational places to be (or arguably has ever existed) ... you can choose one of two paths ...

You can feel empathy for those that suffer and try to find a way by any means or you can say fuck 'em.

Choose empathy. We need a more effective, rational border policy. I'm not all rainbows and sunshine. One thing that needs to happen is an amendment to the constitution. Just because you're here and pump babies out doesn't make xyz a citizen. That is a supremely archaic provision of the constitution that needs amendment. It's no small part as to why some people risk their lives just to get here.

Ultimately people want to improve their station in life and we should not begrudge them for doing so. Improving one's station is what we all wish for. We need to put pressure on our politicians to do things to IMPROVE the situation because the status quo is not only immoral but impractical.

[–] trooperjess@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate to tell you this. But has always been this way in the us. It used to be that the USA has a quota amount that we would except in the us. That's one of the main reasons that you sure turned away from New York. Cuz I would have to increase the quote on the West Coast

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right but we also didn't go drown them in the Hudson. The southern border can be a savage place. I'll never forget stepping out of the car during a cross-country trip and immediately losing my breath due to the heat.

[–] trooperjess@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you at all just pointing out that this attitude isn't out of the norm for the USA. I will state this next sentence kinda the same pattern with US the bullshit at the border we just didn't kill people. But is True for most of the time in the us history. The USA would just send the the people back on the boat that came in one. But in the late 1930 and early 1940 we sent many jews back to Germany to be gassed, starved, and worked to death. Did US pull the trigger no. But did the US doom them I would say yes but at that time wasn't known what would happen when her were returned. That being said just pick up the people and send them back across the border it isn't that hard. Does it cost money yes but damnit I don't think traps need to be laid to kill people.