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You can care about privacy, or you can ask a phone number during sign up. Those things are mutually exclusive.
Don't use Signal you care about privacy.
Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. All my friends and family use Signal, it was a multi-year effort to pull that off. Signal will roll out usernames faster than the tide will turn, so let's take our wins and learn to be better.
Yhea.
I can almost exclusively chat with my social circle with signal now, been using it since 8-9 years.
I've tried xmpp, matrix and some other. Signal is the only one that stuck, it's not perfect but it's fucking fine from my perspective.
Element had a lot of issue last time i've tested it: push notification issue, convulated ui, e2e encryption disabled by default, slow server.
I had my own server for a while for my SO and I and we often missed each other messages plus the client was draining my phone battery.
I love the briding capacity of matrix, I woulf like to spend an evening setting that up in order to aggregate all those messaging apps but I'm afraid it's not worth it.
Yhea they're improving quite a lot, it's great to read. Do they encrypt metadata now?
I've missed that. It's great :)
Hope they solve it soon.
And yes signal is far from perfect and moxie view on some key point such as centralization are not mine. Still it's solid software .
This is my argument for Telegram. It's clients are open source and has good Linux support. And unlike Signal it's actually nice to use. (non-tech people usually dislike using Signal, but the feedback from Telegram is very positive)
Except e2ee isn't on by default at telegram.
That's why I prefer Matrix. But it's hard to convince people to use Matrix so Telegram it is.
You're conflating privacy with anonymity. Signal is not anonymous, but it is private.
I can't fathom why they insist on sticking with this. It's so obviously a de-anonymization technique, which is completely at odds with the rest of their stated goals. I haven't made a Signal account for exactly this reason.