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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2674486

TL;DR: the meat industry's misleading messaging campaign + lobbying

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[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is that how you respond to a good-faith conversation by someone who has researched this?

Those independent experts corroborate my own experience, the environmental exports I've had the opportunity to befriend, etc. Further, if you look carefully, the environmental numbers that some vegans like to use actually work against them if taken in an unbiased light.

But that's ok, you won because you drew a picture with me having a silly face and you having a chad face :)

EDIT: Flummery to lemmy's recent context BS. I realized that you replied to one of my only comments that didn't include citations, so I backed off on the "how you respond to facts and evidence".

EDIT2: Is anyone else experiencing what I am? When you look at a context, you can't see its parent post anymore. When you reply to something, the link for the original post seems to be overwritten by the link to your reply (with no context of the previous post). I end up having to load the post and ctrl-f search for the damn comment I intended to reply to

[–] Zeeroover@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's easy to conclude what you're shoving down you throat.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dead cow, from a local farm, fed local waste grains. Dead chicken, grown by my neighbor, allowed to eat grass feed would otherwise get burned. I'd eat eggs galore, but I'm allergic. As much seafood as I can handle because it's plentiful around here. Overflow venison when I can because it absolutely has to die whether it's eaten or not.

Also, the best local produce money can buy, fertilized by their manure. Yes, I eat vegetables that are grown with the help of animal shit. Lovely, smelly, animal shit.

Oh I know exactly what I'm shoving down my throat, and have no weird queasy fear about talking about where it came from or what it took to get there. More importantly, I know what I'm eating is good for me and good for the environment.

[–] Zeeroover@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There we have this "good-faith" conversation. Idiot.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Excuse you? This was in response to "it's easy to conclude what you're shoving down your throat". What exactly should a person respond in that case? I gave you the facts, precisely.

I feel the moral case for veganism colors every other argument, so I cut that one out at the pass.

Also, true colors showed; first ad hominem came out. Reported and blocked

[–] Zeeroover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, like I started your bullshit. I called it out and you freaked out. Have a nice life (or not, I don't care).