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In familiar predicament for famously challenging client, multiple Florida lawyers decline to take Trump’s case, people familiar with the matter say.

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[–] ritswd@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that this is not the actual problem that is keeping lawyers away.

Many freelancers are ok to get paid and do their best work for customers who will then destroy that work and shoot themselves in the foot. It’s frustrating, but as long as you get paid, after all it’s the customer’s problem. Lawyers are the same, you can find a number of them who won’t mind.

But here my understanding of what happened was that Trump made his lawyer sign a document where he personally committed to have checked everywhere and there were no documents left, all the while Trump was lying to him and there absolutely were hidden documents. So if that lawyer had kept defending Trump, it could have come across as him being in on the lie to the feds, and being liable to the same crimes.

A lot of lawyers will be glad to take hard-earned money from frustrating clients, but won’t be keen to get themselves in actual legal trouble.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The common joke from the other place was MAGA stood for make attorneys get attorneys. It's one thing to get paid in exposure, but it's alright another thing to get "paid" in legal exposure. As an attorney what do you do? Can you really include a weasel statement in every filing saying "this is what he told me, I have no idea if it's true but it's it's not then it's not my ass"?

Trump's built a reputation as being a hard client to represent. Even worse is that Trump attorneys have had some notably batshit crazy examples that makes it challenging to one's reputation to get lumped in with. Good attorneys have had to quit their firms in order to represent Trump.

Heck, the current vacancies are because they saw what they were up against and noped out. It's like if a place has 1.2 stars on Glassdoor, are you really gonna risk your career and jump ship to them?

[–] thesanewriter@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Even beyond that, Trump's known for not paying his staff unless he's forced to, so some of attorneys literally got paid in exposure. The prospect of not being paid makes him an even more risky client to take on, and I wouldn't be completely shocked if at this point he ended up with a public defender.

[–] vinniep@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This looks a likely a big part of it, and then we also have reports from MSNBC that at least some of the evidence being presented against him came from one of his lawyers. It could have been a former lawyer and not one of the two that recently resigned, but if it was one of these two they would have to resign or risk personal legal consequences.

Trump seems to have taken the view that plotting illegal things with his lawyer is smart due to attorney client confidentiality (see Cohen), not understanding that confidentiality specifically does not protect discussions related to new crimes. No one can force your attorney to disclose that you told him you were guilty, but if you ask them to help you suppress evidence or intimidate a witness, nothing stops the attorney from turning you in, and they have reasons to do just that as you’ve just made them complicit in your new crime and that is not protected by privilege.

[–] july_august_reno_@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Trump seems to have about the same level of legal knowledge as George Bluth - "It had to be your mother, Michael. They can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime!"