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I just joined kbin and have no idea what i'm doing lol. ended up making this account on fedia and another on kbin.social since they can't seem to see the same posts. not sure what to do long term...
Reddit kinda feels like a sinking ship right now. I wonder how many subreddits will go public again?
Kbin.social is going through some tough times handling the load right now, so federating a bit hard due to the cloud flare DDOS protection.
It should smooth out, then you'll be able to see the same posts
It brings to mind the careful docking of western and soviet spacecraft a little.
Hmm, note to BeeHaw or maybe it’s just me but it’s very easy to fumble the delete button on mobile web.
The instances all store separate versions of the same data. However, federation only starts, when your instance gets a reference to the community. So say you are on a different instance. Initially, you won't see your favourite communities, so you'll have to start searching for them and linking them up in your instance. Once that happens, your instance will start receiving the posts, with the caveat, that old posts and comments will not be visible.
I think kbin.social is also struggling with federation as a whole right now. But as for the "starts only when youre instance get a reference to the community" what all counts for that? someone searching in the search bar? someone posting cross-instance?
Can you please explain how I can link them up?
I have no idea how to join kbin. This is all too confusing
You just make an account like on a normal website.
The main kbin site is: https://kbin.social/
While I'm posting from an alt-instance right now: https://fedia.io/
Both sites will give the same UI. Though the main kbin site is having some difficulties federating properly atm. hence why I'm on fedia right now. You just sign up with a username/password/email like normal and then you're on.
Okay so like is this website now on the same fediverse as kbin? Because I have the same username on both now
kbin.social and fedia.io are two separate websites. They are called "instances". Collectively, these sorts of sites are referred to as the "fediverse".
Posts on one "fediverse" site can be see on another "fediverse" site. For instance, right now you're apparently posting from beehaw.org, which isn't a kbin instance but instead appears to be a lemmy instance.
I'm currently using fedia.io, which is a kbin instance.
The group we're in right now is
technology@beehaw.org, which is hosted on the beehaw.org website/instance, which is the site you're using right now. But I can see and interact, since we're together on the "fediverse".If you signed up for kbin, you have a kbin username as well, but it's separate from your beehaw account. For example, I'm Otome-Chan@kbin.social but also April@fedia.io, I don't have a beehaw account so any posts I make on beehaw groups will have to be from either my kbin account or my fedia account. whereas you can respond with your beehaw account as you've done here :)
So yes, it's the same "fediverse" between kbin, fedia, and beehaw. Though notably kbin.social is having some issues with federation right now due to lots of people joining it.
Normally, yes! You'd be able to see threads across the Fediverse no matter where you signed up.
If you think of the Fediverse like a shopping mall, think of kbin and lemmy as two different bus companies that go to that same mall. It doesn't matter what bus you take, both take you to the same place where you can browse the same stores. Maybe you like the seats in the lemmy bus better than the kbin bus so you prefer to use that one. That's like if someone prefers the interface of lemmy more than kbin. While both go to the same places and see the same things, you might prefer the look and layout of one over the other so you use your favorite primarily.
However, keep in mind that kbin.social has had a massive amount of people sign up in the past few days, and as such it could not handle the large amount of new activity. They are working on a fix for this, but for now kbin.social has been cutoff from the Fediverse while it updates to handle the new load. Think of it like the kbin.social bus is not currently going to the mall -- you can get on, see and talk to the people on that bus, but until maintenance is done it won't actually go to the shopping mall where you can interact with everything across the Fediverse.
There is more to it but that's a simplified gist of it!
I know, you're just used to the centralized approach. Give it a few days, things will start sinking in.