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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2674486

TL;DR: the meat industry's misleading messaging campaign + lobbying

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[–] fades@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because selfish humans love their fucking meat and they don’t care that animals are locked into prisons where they can barely move or clean themselves, generate massive acres of literal shit pools that pollute large areas, the impact that kind of farming has on the environment….

THAT is why there is motivation for replication. Without it how do you shut down these disgusting cow/pig/chicken torture facilities

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet so many of these people that claim to care about the environment still have children. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[–] fades@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Hard agree. People will call you an extemist like child free communities that hate kids, as if the state of the fucking world is reason enough to chill on the kids thing

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you had to choose between being vegan and the environment going to shit, or eating meat and the environment getting figured out, which would you pick?

I find a lot of vegans have a really inaccurate view of non-vegans wrt eating meat. It's not that we selfishly choose to eat meat despite feeling animals dying is a bad thing. It's that we don't think it's a bad thing that animals die in a farm for food.

And if you realize that, you might find you have things in common with non-vegans. I fight for free-range laws, anti-farm-cruelty laws, etc. I just think you're morally in the wrong about everyone stopping eating meat. Oddly, a lot of us non-vegans see vegans to be selfish. But we try not to use that to be uncivil towards them.