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[–] fishtacos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So... No, it's not like Russia at all. But that nuance is too long for me to explain right now. Short answer is that Russia is capitalist, and China is 50/50 capitalist/socialist, depending on definitions, and yeah a lot of nuance.

But China is run by the people, their authoritarian politics keeps their billionaires and induatry in check. Their local politics is a negotiation with the national politics.

And... How exactly is China antagonizing nations abroad? Because a lot of countries are choosing to work with China because they AREN'T antagonizing them as much as America and Europe. So... The reality is the opposite.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, if you haven't been there or don't know anyone from there you could pretend they are a democracy, but they are authoritarian like Russia is authoritarian. Long term they will seek a wider swath to be authoritarian over.

[–] fishtacos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the argument from ignorance continues.

All I have to say is read more and be online less.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not from ignorance. It's based on the people I know from China.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quick tip, arguing with tankies gets you nowhere, let them waddle in their own filth and move on with your life.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

the less dronies I have to interact with the better

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taiwan, a nation and country, is antagonized by China regularly.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Taiwan is its own nation, they should really specify that in their constitution instead of claiming to be the rightful government of all of China and Mongolia.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That still makes it a nation... That claims to be the rightful government. These are not mutually exclusive haha

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That claim is mutually exclusive with Taiwan being "its own nation" distinct from China. It is definitionally its own government, but it claims to be a superset of the nation of China (because of also claiming Mongolia and some smaller territories). Nations are a social construct based on historical group identities, so the PRC is the same nation as the ROC was back when the ROC controlled the mainland. The ROC claims to still be that nation (plus Mongolia) which the PRC currently administers.