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He can wait to see if Trump becomes president, because we all know how it will end with his BFF in charge.
Any Republican, really. Just listen to Fox or the Republicans in Congress.
This is the long game, because if Trump wins, he can get the US out of NATO and that's a constitutional crisis at home, and a serious flashpoint to drive Europe back into squabbling.
Not with this supreme court.
America is far from the only country providing support to Ukraine.
No, but it is definitely the singlemost important contributor by far.
Once US turns off the tap this war ends immediately. It's really that simple.
No, it really isn't. The rest of eastern Europe's countries remember what it was like to live under the Russian thumb and they have plenty of modern weapons and well-trained soldiers salivating to ensure Russia is going to be a crippled husk for the next few generations. Western Europe is none to fond of Russia either. And if America stops helping because an obvious Russian puppet president has taken power, that's only going to make it worse.
America may be the sole "superpower", but bear in mind that that means Russia is not a "superpower". They're a peer to the various countries of Europe at best, and by this point I would not even call them that. Ukraine has more tanks than Russia does now. America's already done a lot of the heavy lifting in breaking Russia, if they bowed out now it's not like everything resets to the way it was in 2021. Russia is still on the ropes.
Gee, I wonder if anything might have happened from 2014 to present that would have changed those numbers a bit.
Also, to dig up an old favourite, you forgot Poland. And a bunch of others. More countries were "living under the Russian thumb" than just literal members of the USSR. Here's 14 former Soviet republics that joined NATO, whose primary purpose is to defend against Russian attack.
LOL. Looks like the 2013 study decided not to ask anyone they knew for sure would answer that they were glad they were free from the USSR.
True, but if America decides to provide support to Russia, the rest of NATO will stand down.
There's a vast difference between America ceasing to support Ukraine and America supporting Russia. Simply never going to happen, that's a loonie scenario.
NATO is not officially supporting Ukraine. It just so happens that all the various NATO member countries are all individually deciding that it's in their interests to support Ukraine. If America drops out that's not going to change whether it's in the interests of those countries to continue supporting Ukraine. Indeed, it becomes all the more important for many of them to make sure Russia's strength is broken if they don't feel they can rely on America to support them.