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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

right, i agree the idea is revolting... but the old man at the dog park who only watches fox news isnt inherently evil. hes brainwashed. hes a fellow human who if shown the light would absolutely change his tune. to abandon those people is to abandon civilization.

sure thats not everyone, but its enough. we just need to show them the truth.. that theyve been lied to and actually do have a choice.

treating every conservative voter as you would trump himself is absolutely painting in black and white.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

we just need to show them the truth

I once read this on lemmy and it stuck with me. I think it applies here:

The autistic trait that bites me in the ass most often is the unshakable belief that if I can just show someone the truth, they'll believe me.

True for me, and worse, I never seem to learn.

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Fuck, that's just exactly me. It's an autism trait??

More and more, I approach wishing everyone was autistic lmao

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

but the old man at the dog park who only watches fox news isnt inherently evil

I'm sorry but no.

You have the die-hard racist MAGAs with the flags and the red cap. Those can fuck right off obviously.

But you also have all the ordinary folks who are NOT die-hard MAGA, but who decided that it was okay to vote for a convicted felon who tried to overthrow the government. And guess what: in a sense, they're even worse.

Voting for Trump is crossing a line. If you voted for Trump, I really don't want anything to do with you because you have proved to me that your sense of morality and your respect for the institutions of this country are compromised.

[–] gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Either that or so fucking stupid that interacting with them wouldn't be worth my time. I honestly used to believe what originallucifer said, but after this election i've been thoroughly and completely radicalized.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

remember that 88 million people who can vote, dont.

many of those that did vote are under a veil of propaganda. theyre not all rabid maga racists. its been proven that one-on-one interaction with adversaries can often change their minds. its just a slow, painful process.

The Dems have been "reaching across the aisle" since before I was born. How's that working out? 20 years ago, racism was couched under the guise of "it's just a joke." 10 years ago, the racists and transphobes were screaming about how they were getting canceled for their views on their TV specials. Today, members of the incoming administration have openly called for the genocide of trans people (their words, not mine).

America has always been deeply bigoted. It's just out in the open now. And with my life on the line, the only thing I'm reaching across the aisle with is a loaded gun. The time for reconciliation is past. It's time to make Nazis afraid again.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 8 hours ago

hes a fellow human who if shown the light would absolutely change his tune.

Thats not always true... That old man stuck on Fox News would likely rather shoot a bunch of brown people than admit he was wrong.