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Humanity will be fine. We've survived ice ages before, and I'm sure we'll do so again. Suffering is a given. You are living in complete ignorance if you don't believe there is suffering in your very own city right now this moment, no matter where you live in the world. Would there be more if governments collapsed and wars raged all over the world? Sure. But there is and will never be any period of "no suffering". In fact, a massive population decline might very well lower the average suffering of the survivors for a while due to resource surplus. The point here is that humanity is not the end all be all of perspectives. Cataclysmic for us can be the dawn of a golden age for someone else. Give octopus or dolphins a shot.
So you're frustrated by climate change alarmists because even if civilization collapses there will still likely be humans in a cave somewhere, and the octopus might have a shot at taking over the world?
Fortunately most people aren't so horribly misanthropic; we actually care what happens to people.
I'm frustrated with climate alarmists because they are too busy alarmistizing the conversation to actually get productive about solutions. The only way we will ever see progress towards stabilizing our climate is when something other than human is in charge. I, for one, welcome our future robot overlords with open arms. We have thousands of years of history to prove to anyone with the eyes to see that humanity cannot be trusted to care for itself. AI is the best bet we have as long as we actually manage to birth the machine gods before we put ourselves back into the caves.