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"The US Commerce Department has played booster and concierge to the firearm industry, even as America’s mass shootings horrify the world and gun-crime rates rise in many of the importing countries."

Original article is a Bloomberg piece available at - https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-us-made-gun-exports-shootings-violence-sig-sauer/

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...Doesn't the millitary still vastly out-arm any armed citizen in today's age, both in actual weapons and in training to use said weapons?

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me, what happened in the middle east?

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Lots and lots of military contracts that made a few people a lot of money? With millions of civilian deaths, and maybe thousands of military deaths?

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like it never reached the point of millitary. They just fought police. And Uvande showed everyone the competence of police.

It really just looks like the government made no efforts to enforce the SC's ruling. So it works if they don't care.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Standing up to police really is the point for me. It's not about the big boog uprising that the crazy right talks about. For me it's about small town corruption that happens all over the country and giving people defense against other people.

Also, fun fact, Republicans used to be anti 2nd when Black Panthers were walking around with guns.

I know that there are a lot of good arguments for and against it, but in my mind giving people access to those tools is a net positive.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think anyone who thinks greater access to tools of death and destruction is a net positive is deluding themselves.

It may be net neutral, in that giving people weapons to "counter" other weapons negates other weapons... but it doesn't protect them, it just gives them a chance to hurt others as much as they're hurt themselves.

It's predicated on the idea of mutually assured destruction, but in not so nearly a potent manner as nuclear arms... which, in and of themselves, are not a universally potent enough deterrent to prevent war. Just enough that those weapons themselves aren't used (more than twice). People still get hurt and killed by guns. And as any defender of gun death statistics will tell you, more often by the people who own them.

If you consider that a net positive... well, I kind of feel sorry for you.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

You're making a lot of baseless assumptions about me. I'm not going to do that in return. I've said my piece.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago