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alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head

Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being "censored".

Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: "Inkl". πŸ’©posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 155 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 65 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:

Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it's sort of part of the definition...

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think there is an inbetween where you not declared saint but basically are declared somewhat holy ready to be sainted once you die.

[–] Damage 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But he’s already so beautified 😍

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, my. What are you doing with this AI pic you found in the internet?

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Only his name? His name only? Name his only? Only name his ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

Venerated, Beatified, Saint. At least that's what I remember from Catechism beginning some 67 years ago

Doesn't one of the charges carry the death penalty?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

The miracles are going to be people praying to him to have their claims accepted.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Martyrs get a pass on the miracles BTW.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not quite. They get a pass on miracles for beatification, but wording to this page's "Since 1983" section two miracles are originally required for canonisation. In fact it is the non-martyr blessed who get a pass, since their miracle to become blessed counts and they only need one more.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The miracles are relatively easy in his case, considering his connection to healthcare. Get enough people with terminal diagnoses praying for his intercession, and some will happen to make a statistically unlikely spontaneous recovery.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, the Popeis the absolute sovereign dictator of Church dogma, so if he says tomorrow that Luigi is a saint, then all 1 billion Catholics worldwide must listen

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kind of. He is the leader of the church but the congregation of Cardinals also holds a lot of political sway over the office as well and advise the pope on all kinds of matters.

Papal infallibility basically only applies to the interpretation of doctrine and scripture by the papal office.

Yeah and there's still ecumenical councils and tradition.

There's a reason the pope that gave birth didn't lead to female priests, sexusl activity permitted among priests, or transmasculine priests, just a genital inspection before being confirmed as pope

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago

'In nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Mora, abnegare et deponere. Amen.'

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He can't become a Saint until after he dies, unfortunately.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Pope could always talk to the big man and get that rule changed. Who's gonna stop him, the pope?

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 7 points 1 day ago

Sounds like the government wants to do just that if he loses.