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[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 48 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Honestly, Pelosi has been a non-stop blight. It's time to cut out the cancer, here.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I’m not sure USA politics can be solved by replacing individuals. Seems to be an institutional issue

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

You have to replace individuals to change the institutions

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think we need to sacrifice a few more CEOs to the money gods just to test this theory. For science.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Not sure thatll work but its worth a try. And its for science. Or at least math and statistics.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Let's start with people and see what changes. "Institutional issue" is often a product of just a handful of people. Remove the entrenched old money Dems and watch progressives flood the party.

The left is now "business focused" and the right is "money focused" with no room for the problems of us normal people. If CEO and business are determined to set a line between us and them, then "us" will unite to become"we" and they don't that. Let's get rid of the people who are a problem and use the organization they use to promote those who care about other people.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The institutional part of it is WHY it's difficult/impossible to get rid of the corporate politicians. You can say we should vote out x or we should support y policy, but it doesn't really matter if the entire electoral system is set up to stop that from happening.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

Too much effort is spent on tearing down a system that is literally built to withstand outside influences. Has anyone ever changed a government from outside the government without violence? To make the work matter, the effort needs to be applied to the problem areas, those few individuals who are at the top and prevent any needed change.

Voting absolutely works or else Russia and Republicans wouldn't worry about it. Male change happen by voting for a Democrat who will support the people, not business. A politician who cherishes the value of their community and not money.

[–] Tiresia 2 points 4 days ago

To extend the cancer metaphor, a metastisized cancer can still be worth operating on to give the chemotherapy a better chance of success.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Its a voter issue.

Dem voters suffer from this delusion that because they are more educated, think up clever names for Trump supporters, post screenshots of conservatives getting roasted on Twitter and pointing out all the logical fallacies in republican policies that they are winning.

Trumps voters can be functionally illiterate, effectively retarded and possibly inbred but they cared enough to VOTE. Its literally the only thing that matters. You can have 6 Phds and are literally never wrong about anything but that vote only counts as much as Cletus McGee who has never left Deer tick creek Alabama his whole life. They actually know how to win an election, they turn the fuck up.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Gotta recall ‘em all

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