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[–] vita_man@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I get the joke. However, I just want to point out that in the later series, red signified command and someone important. When I wear my Commandar Riker costume, I don't appreciate the comments about the red shirt and being expendable.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I wear my Commandar Riker costume, I don't appreciate the comments about the red shirt and being expendable.

Complains about being called expendable.

Uses only character there's literally two of.

[–] vita_man@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Haha yes. That may be true there are 2 Rikers, there's only one Commander Riker.

[–] andrewrgross 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

THANK YOU.

The joke about red shirts makes no effing sense any more. It hasn't made sense in over thirty years. I've never watched TOS, I started with TNG a couple of years ago, and I remember thinking during the first season (as a new arrival to the fandom giving it an overdue watch) that the jokes I'd always heard about red shirts were confusing, because random deaths were not that common on the show. People died occasionally, but the trope of unnamed crew members being killed unceremoniously to convey stakes did not appear in TNG, and I couldn't help but notice that captain Picard himself was wearing this supposedly cursed color.

It makes me so frustrated to see this lazy, lazy, lazy zombie joke that just won't go away.

[–] PhantomPhanatic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The red shirt part of the joke is referring to TOS exclusively because it was so prevalent. But really it's a larger trope found across lots of different shows and genres. They may not wear red shirts but you'll know them when you see them.

I think it's a great joke and has stood the test of time. You should try watching TOS before proclaiming that the joke doesn't work.

And the guys in the comic are wearing TOS uniforms, including the rank stripes on the sleeve cuffs.

[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I don't even care about the people who don't know which series is which. The whole joke is a fallacy to begin with, and I wish people didn't actually think it was true.

https://blog.minitab.com/en/adventures-in-statistics-2/using-data-analysis-to-assess-fatality-rates-in-star-trek-the-original-series

It always seemed like red shirts were most likely to die, but that's only because the majority of crew members wore red. Statistically, gold shirts have a much higher fatality rate.