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What's your opinion about Luigi Mangione? (self.anarchism)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by SolarPunker to c/anarchism@lemmy.ml

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"Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare since 2021, was shot and killed outside an entrance to the New York Hilton Midtown in Manhattan, New York City, on December 4, 2024. He was in the city to attend an annual investors meeting for UnitedHealth Group, the parent company of UnitedHealthcare. Authorities believe the attack was not random. Thompson had been criticized for UnitedHealthcare's rejection of insurance claims, and his family reported that he had received death threats in the past. The shooting occurred early in the morning, and the suspect, initially described as a white man wearing a mask, fled the scene."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Brian_Thompson

(edit) I would like to point out that Luigi Mangione is only a suspect and there are currently doubts about the integrity of the evidence.

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[–] Zectivi@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ll be honest, I’m ok with what happened. Someone at work gave me shit over “oh but he has 2 kids …”

Murder in the general sense is not ok. People shouldn’t be able to end the lives of other people just because without response. But this guy... How many lives did he decide to end so he can get a little bigger of a paycheck?

The kids? Yeah, as a parent, I have sympathy. But as a human, fuck that shit.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a drug dealer who had 2 kids sold fentanyl laced drugs that killed several people just to make some money got murdered in the streets nobody would say "oh but he has 2 kids".

They might say the drug dealer was doing something illegal. How this CEO was running things should be illegal. Countless (innocent) people died so he could get more money.

Oh also he was doing illegal things including insider trading and drinking and driving so there's that.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah.

Honestly I see Brian Thompson as way worse than this hypothetical drug dealer.

Obviously, the drug dealer is bad: he's effectively killed people by selling fentanylaced drugs (presumably without telling his buyers what they were actually buying). But Brian has effectively killed thousands.

In both cases I have sympathy for the kids. In the drug dealers case, I might not be crying my eyes out about the death; but I still wish some form of non-lethal recourse had been taken. This person's death doesn't send a very effective message, as most other people in his position have already accepted the risk inherent to what they're doing.

In Brian's case, non-lethal recourse wouldn't have been effective. If he was left alive he would've just kept killing people for his own profit, but his death sends a message to others in his position. People who usually wouldn't see any sort of consequences for their actions.

[–] hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I feel bad for the family. Losing a loved one sucks. I don't know anything else about him, his family, or their life outside of this story to build an opinion on their suffering, but I'm sure it is immeasurable and only made worse by the media circus that has developed.

But one thing I do know is that this same terrible thing happens to so many families across the world every day. And the impacts can be harder than just dealing with the loss - what if the person murdered was the earner for the family? Or supported their disabled partner or child? What if a couple wasn't married/legally bound, so the partner can't get any of the deceased's benefits? Imagine having to try to figure out childcare if you were a stay at home parent and had to go back to work. Imagine having to go back to work period after suffering a loss like that?

This is where my lack of sympathy for the current situation manifests - because Mr. Thompson's family is ridiculously rich from his time as CEO of UHC, they will not have to worry about these scenarios. Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy safety and security and eliminate worry. They will be able to fully mourn their husband and father, knowing that their millions and millions of dollars are sitting there earning more money without them having to lift a finger. Their future is secure.

To become that rich you either profited off the efforts of others, or profited from the suffering of others. Or both.

[–] SolarPunker 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I personally find it absurd that a murder involving a few people makes the world talk about these health problems much more effectively than street demonstrations of thousands of protesters. The real fact is that the protesters are us, here on the net, now much more impactful online than one on the street, and I don't know if this is worrying or not but this is the reality (at least in many contexts).