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It's an old school log aggragating service that used to be how most *nix distros collected logs in years past. As I understand it was generally replaced by systemd's journald service. The only times I encounter it in the wild is on legacy systems that couldn't or refused to adapt and chances are they're paying a lot cuz it'll be a painful support experience. Oh and for some it can be a useful way to sync logs up to monitoring services like Splunk but it's effectiveness is debatable.
Besides Journal not being available on non-Linux, there are a could of reasons for using syslog: it can log to a remote server for instance. Journal does have a remote logging capability, but at best you have to run two log sinks in parallel, at worse it's a non starter because everything that's not a Linux box (network routers, VMware hosts, IDS appliances) can't speak to it
Another is fine filing and retention. With syslog you can say things like "log NOTICE and above from daemon XYZ to XYZ.log and keep 30 days worth; log everything including DEBUG to XYZ-debug.log, keep no more than 10MB". With Journal you rotate the entire log or nothing, at least last I looked I couldnt find anything finer. There are namespaces, but that doesn't compowe, the application needs to know which log goes into which namespace
If ever getting to administrate non systemd boxes, and in need to deal with the system logging mechanism, then syslog-ng comes close to the most probable mechanism use. And no, non systemd gnu+linux distributions are not legacy, there are quite a few out there, just not the major or mainstream ones, like Artix, Void, Guix, and several others, not to count non gnu+linux OSs like BSDs...
Basically this, and quite a long time ago. Anything even remotely modern (and by that I mean like, the last decade or so) is either using systemd, or in the case of debuntu, rsyslog.
Wonder what kind of funky environment is using syslog-ng, and to what scale so that there's literally a 'syslog-ng engineer' job posting.
It'll either be military or industrial... neither want to replace “perfectly operational“ tech for ~10 years.
If it's "perfectly operational", they wouldn't need someone to maintain it 🫠
Asking the real questions.