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U.S. officials urge Americans to use encrypted apps amid unprecedented cyberattack (www.nbcnews.com)

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[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (19 children)

google isn't going to fuck around with this service to make money

Your honor, I would like to submit Exhibit A, Google Chrome “Enhanced Privacy”.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/how-turn-googles-privacy-sandbox-ad-tracking-and-why-you-should

Google will absolutely fuck with anything that makes them money.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

Thats a different tech. End to end is cut and dry how it works. If you do anything to data mine it, it's not end to end anymore.

Only the users involved in end to end can access the data in that chat. Everyone else sees encrypted data, i.e noise. If there are any backdoors or any methods to pull data out, you can't bill it as end to end.

[–] micballin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

They can just claim archived or deleted messages don't qualify for end to end encryption in their privacy policy or something equally vague. If they invent their own program they can invent the loophole on how the data is processed

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The messages are signed by cryptographic keys on the users phones that never leave the device. They are not decryptable in any way by google or anyone else. Thats the very nature of E2EE.

How end-to-end encryption works

When you use the Google Messages app to send end-to-end encrypted messages, all chats, including their text and any files or media, are encrypted as the data travels between devices. Encryption converts data into scrambled text. The unreadable text can only be decoded with a secret key.

The secret key is a number that’s:

Created on your device and the device you message. It exists only on these two devices.

Not shared with Google, anyone else, or other devices.

Generated again for each message.

Deleted from the sender's device when the encrypted message is created, and deleted from the receiver's device when the message is decrypted.

Neither Google or other third parties can read end-to-end encrypted messages because they don’t have the key.

They cant fuck with it, at all, by design. That's the whole point. Even if they created "archived" messages to datamine, all they would have is the noise.

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